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Comparing Covid to Influenza #6930018
07/14/20 08:14 PM
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From the start I’ve seen people ostracized for comparing Covid to Influenza. Now that there’s been some time to see exactly how it pans out I find the numbers coming out of states interesting. There’s been times on here I’ve felt my rear was to the flames for calling it like I saw it from first hand knowledge. Now the numbers are starting to show it.

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Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: WadeRyan] #6930022
07/14/20 08:19 PM
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That's worth shutting the country down and turning out the lights, huh? SMH


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Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: WadeRyan] #6930036
07/14/20 08:34 PM
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Sure was still plenty of positives here. Still not over-run. Even the elderly with it are walking out to go home.


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Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: WadeRyan] #6930037
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There are so many holes in your comparison. I'll just do one. Corona has only been around 4 months in Texas. 8 more months and then we can at least make a time frame for comparison for Texas.

There are more, but what would be the point?

Last edited by Dirt; 07/14/20 08:43 PM.

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Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: WadeRyan] #6930058
07/14/20 08:57 PM
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Well Dirt even if the numbers kept up what's already been done in the first six months Texas would be at 6,200 deaths. More testing, positives, and survivals is bringing the already lower mortality rate down. It's not going up. Your next hole?


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Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: WadeRyan] #6930066
07/14/20 09:02 PM
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WadeRyan if those statistics are the real deal than the governor should be turning 180 degrees on his decision. However I tried to look up the stats for myself and could not find them on the Texas Health Department website. Could you please post the link that you obtained that statistical chart from. Thanks

Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: Dirt] #6930067
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Originally Posted by Dirt
There are so many holes in your comparison. I'll just do one. Corona has only been around 4 months in Texas. 8 more months and then we can at least make a time frame for comparison for Texas.

There are more, but what would be the point?


Corona has been around a lot longer than 4 months. If a tree falls in the forest, and no media reports it, did it really fall?

Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: WadeRyan] #6930069
07/14/20 09:05 PM
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If the recovery and death rates add to 100%, does that mean there are no active cases in Texas?

Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: WadeRyan] #6930075
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Texas will do 3000 this next month if pattern holds. Hopefully it comes down after that. Pay attention, numbers are going up, not maintaining at the old level. 520 or 17% of the Texas death toll happened in the last 6 days.


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Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: WadeRyan] #6930083
07/14/20 09:12 PM
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Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: BruceDafter] #6930092
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Originally Posted by BruceDafter
If the recovery and death rates add to 100%, does that mean there are no active cases in Texas?


No I'd say it would be a comparison between those that have died or recovered and have a definitive end. I don't see active cases mentioned although I posted a link if you'd like to look at the total that are still active.


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Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: WadeRyan] #6930152
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Looks like regular flu got it to me Wade


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Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: WadeRyan] #6930187
07/14/20 10:22 PM
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Hey- should we have worn masks the last 2 seasons?
Looks like the flu might be a lot more deadly...


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Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: Leftlane] #6930191
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
Hey- should we have worn masks the last 2 seasons?
Looks like the flu might be a lot more deadly...


I haven't worn a mask outside of work yet or went to a business that required it. I do wear one during Influenza season while I'm working simply because I am right in the business end of it for 12 hours a day... so far my record is 14 positives I was exposed to in one shift. We've had Covid in our community for months and I have not stopped any daily routine. Antibody negative. As contagious as the media would like you to believe surely by not practicing social distancing, masking, and being exposed to known positives I'd likely have had it by now..

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Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: WadeRyan] #6930195
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That’s the stats I’ve been seeing too. Thanks for posting. Wade a great source of information is the website flattenthefearcom. Great doctors with no agenda

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Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: WadeRyan] #6930201
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Covid can have lasting disabilities says CDC. Brain, heart, and lungs may be permanently damaged.

Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: WadeRyan] #6930206
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Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: charles] #6930212
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Originally Posted by charles
Covid can have lasting disabilities says CDC. Brain, heart, and lungs may be permanently damaged.


Not sure but almost every illness does if not treated properly or if allowed to progress.


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Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: charles] #6930216
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Originally Posted by charles
Covid can have lasting disabilities says CDC. Brain, heart, and lungs may be permanently damaged.


So can over eating, drinking, smoking, drugs, and the list goes on.


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Re: Comparing Covid to Influenza [Re: charles] #6930222
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Originally Posted by charles
Covid can have lasting disabilities says CDC. Brain, heart, and lungs may be permanently damaged.

Most of those are caused by pro-longed ventilation which is being done to prevent the spread of the virus by aerosol. A lot of the typical respiratory treatments were not done by doctors in the early stages of this due to the unknown and the mass fear portrayed by the media of the virus. In my opinion of course. Also my opinion if we'd just treated this thing with Bipap and breathing treatments rather than intubating people at 92% oxygen (we don't even normally place oxygen on someone until 90%) a lot of the deaths could have been avoided. I'm going to re-write that for you Charles we typically do not place even a liter of oxygen on someone (usually in their nose) until they were below 90% oxygen and then they usually recover and improve with oxygenation. There were Covid protocols that were placing tubes down people's throats at 92% oxygen.....why?

When this thing kicked off I listened to a critical care pulmonologist as he explained the data coming in from other countries was showing Covid was killing people due to prolonged ventilation and complications of this. Research since then has shown that there's a very steep increase in your chance of death if you ended up intubated with Covid.

Your lungs, heart, and brain are all going to suffer after 28-30 days on a vent no matter how good of a job your healthcare team has done.

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