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How to properly use colony traps #6923573
07/08/20 01:36 AM
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I was gonna try to use colony traps for muskrat this year but not much experience using them. Can anybody enlighten me? I was thinking of using them as like bottom edge traps.

Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6923575
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Can also be set in runs or at den entrances.Just make sure the trap is totally submerged.
Tom


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Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6923678
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You could use them as bottom edge traps. But I normally use them as Bogmaster stated, in den entrances mainly.


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Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6923713
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If your water is low in the summer mark some of the tunnels/ trenches in case the water comes up, just a dead willow stick will due
pre-planning

Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: Northof50] #6923750
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But if its sticking out of a den entrance 2 feet, wont the muskrat now want to go in.

Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6923755
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Originally Posted by Mason Mayer
But if its sticking out of a den entrance 2 feet, wont the muskrat now want to go in.

They will still go thru them.


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Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6923767
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The rats for the most part are already In the den when you place your traps.


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Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6923779
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Buy the book I wrote on MUSKRATS ... it shows how and where to use them and even how to make folding colony traps.

Garry-


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Have been trapping 75 years WILL be LAST one... or maybe NOT...
Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6923881
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Better yet just take out Actor and absorb some of his wisdom this fall. You might even get an autographed book on that trip, if you follow the rules.

Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6923888
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If you can legally trap culverts just fill that culvert with colony traps and get ready to skin some rats. The best culverts are those that are completely submerged. Ones not completely submerged aren't as good. In these the rats seem to swim on the surface.


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Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6923910
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Funnel traps are better for culverts.
I prefer funnel traps to colony traps if trapping out of a vehicle,or when trapping a multi species line.
If set in the right place a funnel trap will catch a lot of rats.They are a lot bigger and bulkier than the colony traps but you dont need as many of them.

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Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6923937
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But Boco who wants to carry around 100 funnel traps. You would need a trailer to haul them around. While you can build 3 different sizes of square colony traps and nest them together and be more efficient and take up a third of the space. How many funnel traps can you use for den trapping or rat runs. The answer Is NONE. And the there Is the cost of building funnel traps. Try using a funnel trap In 8" of water.

The trick In using regular colony traps Is to put cage wire wings on them. Lets say we are working with 7" traps. What you do Is put 2 7"x 7" wings on the traps. With a few zip ties you can attach the wings on to the leading edges of the trap. They fold up during transport.

Lets say your trapping a 18" culvert you place the trap In the center of the culvert and spread out the wings and the mouth of that culvert Is completely fenced off.
The same deal goes for den entrances and rat runs.
Boco you should come out to ND and I'll show you how to trap rats. LOL


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Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6930154
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Beav your ND trapping is spring and not dealing with ice. Those nice square 3 in 1 would not go into each other after pulling out of frozen situations daily.
Old fridge grates work wonders as gates for fencing.
Boco does not have to travel out of his province to get into good rat populations along the great lakes marshes

Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6930174
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I tried them last year for the first time. Had good luck with them in small runs coming over the beaver dams where the water was deep enough and really narrow.

Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: backroadsarcher] #6930181
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I have been using mine in some streams with fairly hard bottoms with pretty good current so runs and dens are not easily found. I have been doing the bottom edge setting, looking for points, obstructions etc. Two years ago I did OK, but not great. This year my catch percentage was way, way lower. Don't know for sure if there were fewer rats or just not good placement. I put the traps mostly in the same places and I had a few more to set.

Bryce

Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6930306
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Trap smarter not harder. Trap open water.


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Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6931065
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if you truly trap smart, it happens all season.

Most give up to easy.

Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: The Beav] #6931094
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Originally Posted by The Beav
But Boco who wants to carry around 100 funnel traps. You would need a trailer to haul them around. While you can build 3 different sizes of square colony traps and nest them together and be more efficient and take up a third of the space. How many funnel traps can you use for den trapping or rat runs. The answer Is NONE. And the there Is the cost of building funnel traps. Try using a funnel trap In 8" of water.

The trick In using regular colony traps Is to put cage wire wings on them. Lets say we are working with 7" traps. What you do Is put 2 7"x 7" wings on the traps. With a few zip ties you can attach the wings on to the leading edges of the trap. They fold up during transport.

Lets say your trapping a 18" culvert you place the trap In the center of the culvert and spread out the wings and the mouth of that culvert Is completely fenced off.
The same deal goes for den entrances and rat runs.
Boco you should come out to ND and I'll show you how to trap rats. LOL


7 inch traps are for 7 inch runs or states who have a size limit.

Mason, any place a rat will swim and is legal to set is a good place for a colony trap

Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: The Beav] #6931142
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Trap smarter not harder. Trap for dummys in open water.


auto correct, just had to
Some of my best catches have been in hot water tin shells with doors on them.
Some of the east coasters call them otter traps and saving the Brook trout's of the streams

Re: How to properly use colony traps [Re: Actor] #6931146
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Originally Posted by Actor
Buy the book I wrote on MUSKRATS ... it shows how and where to use them and even how to make folding colony traps.

Garry-



Your book Sir, Makes it fun to Trap Muskrats Again. A 'SIMPLY' Outstanding Book!

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