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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: eyedoc] #6931294
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Originally Posted by eyedoc
Not sure about my pm about rule 8 but my location is texas and sheriff is from tahoka if u think its “fake news” wow

Why don't people understand the entire argument and either zone in on one selected piece or comment about something that was never said? No one that I am aware of thinks people dying from the virus is fake news. What is fake news are the numbers of people dying from this virus. Once again, evidence abounds in regards to this. Spoken at a press conference by Dr. Birx herself, she admitted as much. For instance, if you have congenital heart failure and you get the virus and drop dead of a heart attack, they count you as a virus death. Now, does that sound correct to anyone with an IQ over 10 points? Another guy fell, hit his head and died. He was positive so they counted that also. (I would have to look up that story but I can) Sound reasonable?

Here's a couple reports: https://www.dailywire.com/news/drug-overdose-head-trauma-deaths-added-to-coronavirus-death-toll

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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: pcr2] #6931305
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i can save you hundreds on your car insurance.

Really!!
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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6931311
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What is so hard about dividing 135,000 by 330,000,000 to get the death rate???

For the US.

Last edited by GROUSEWIT; 07/16/20 08:02 AM. Reason: Add info

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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6931324
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If a person is tested and is found to be a positive ,
they have to list everyone they have come into " close " contact with in the last 14 days ,
those listed are counted as new cases also ,so if the person tested came in contact
with say 10 people it is listed as 11 new cases that day from the 1 test , multiply that by actual tests in a city ,
10 positive tests could potentially be 110 ( or more / less ) "new cases " that day ,
The contacts are removed from the tally after they are either tested themselves or after a 14 day quarantine .
The media only reports that there are 110 new cases even though there may only be 10 , multiply that for a state ,
they don't report the adjustments that happen over the next 14 days , so the number is scarier .
I'm sure it's a coincidence that most of the spikes are happening in states that Trump or the GOP are planning rally's .



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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: GROUSEWIT] #6931388
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Originally Posted by GROUSEWIT
What is so hard about dividing 135,000 by 330,000,000 to get the death rate???

For the US.


I don't know.

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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: GROUSEWIT] #6931407
07/16/20 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GROUSEWIT
What is so hard about dividing 135,000 by 330,000,000 to get the death rate???

For the US.

That would not be a "Death Rate" unless all 330,000,000 had the virus.


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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6931438
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Many scientific organizations are looking at 5-7 day averages on the testing and the death numbers. Because they are aware of all the goofy things in the daily updates. What numbers are they supposed to monitor to manage the disease? The numbers are what they are. Crying about it won't change it. The Hospitalization data appeared to be the most solid, when they gave specific reasons for patients hospitalization.

I don't listen to the media. Any media. New record daily high! Who cares! Does it mean anything? Maybe it was a big error day?

If you start off counting everything as a corona death, which imo is weird, then you have to keep doing it that way to monitor death trend, If you change now, then you cannot compare the old data to the new data.

IMO to figure out trend you need to look at all the data and realize the error in it and try to make a reasonable picture of what is going on.

I don't believe every State is collecting information the same way. Some States may be better than others? So don't apply all these errors to every State.


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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6931439
07/16/20 11:03 AM
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the ole positive test,been the bane of many a man since the beginning.









Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6931479
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"Record Death toll For Florida Today" July 14th 2020. News Headline.

Go to the Florida website and 25 people were documented died with the corona on that date so far.

What actually happened is 132 deaths from many dates were tallied on the 14th.

Record day for tallying.

"Florida Sets Single-Day Record for Coronavirus Deaths With 132, Adds 9,100 New Cases " NBC

"Florida reports record high coronavirus deaths in 1 day" FOX

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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6931482
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Then that would mean those other dates had 0 deaths.
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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: AKAjust] #6931499
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Originally Posted by AKAjust
Then that would mean those other dates had 0 deaths.
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No


Florida data


Lower right corner. Unless I'm reading that wrong.


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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6931561
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i think they are using the dewey decimal system.









Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6931570
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It is terrible to die twice or three times. Just seems unnatural,

Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: charles] #6931576
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Originally Posted by charles
It is terrible to die twice or three times. Just seems unnatural,


That's just how bad this virus is. Now are you taking it serious?

Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: walleye101] #6931652
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by charles
It is terrible to die twice or three times. Just seems unnatural,


That's just how bad this virus is. Now are you taking it serious?
You guys sound like Chris Cuomo and his homo buddy ole Lemon Head laugh


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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6931658
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Q Dirt"What actually happened is 132 deaths from many dates were tallied on the 14th."

I don't know how you came up with that idea.
At the bottom of the page on the right it says "Death data often has significant delays in reporting, so data in the past 2 weeks will be updated frequently".
Crystal ball?
The data shown doesn't mean that somebody doesn't have that info. just hasn't posted it yet.
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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6931665
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Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by GROUSEWIT
What is so hard about dividing 135,000 by 330,000,000 to get the death rate???

For the US.

That would not be a "Death Rate" unless all 330,000,000 had the virus.


These 2 numbers are the only static ones you can use. Number of cases are bogus and manipulated!!!


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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6931673
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I'm just going to go with 4. Truth for today lol.


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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: AKAjust] #6931675
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Originally Posted by AKAjust
Q Dirt"What actually happened is 132 deaths from many dates were tallied on the 14th."

I don't know how you came up with that idea.
At the bottom of the page on the right it says "Death data often has significant delays in reporting, so data in the past 2 weeks will be updated frequently".
Crystal ball?
The data shown doesn't mean that somebody doesn't have that info. just hasn't posted it yet.
just



There is graph above that message and it says this " Resident Deaths by Date of Death" above it. If you look at that graph on the 14th of July there is approximately 25 deaths documented so far . Looking at it closer maybe only 18-20.

"The number of confirmed deaths from COVID-19 in Florida increased by 132 people in Tuesday's report. "

"Deaths are reported when confirmed, so many of those counted each day actually died days or weeks ago."

My last effort.


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Re: Inflated Florida Coronavirus Numbers [Re: Finster] #6931695
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