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shall not be infringed #6938340
07/22/20 09:48 AM
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Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: shall not be infringed [Re: danny clifton] #6938343
07/22/20 09:50 AM
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Yeah I'm a registered Libertarian. She would be the ideal candidate. Wants to do away with the ATF. Lots of other good ideas, yet unfornately our system is set up to only allow the two parties to "succeed."


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Re: shall not be infringed [Re: danny clifton] #6938353
07/22/20 10:08 AM
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There is no doubt both the republicans and the democrats have both slid to the left in my lifetime. She is correct on that.

Re: shall not be infringed [Re: danny clifton] #6938427
07/22/20 11:32 AM
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She is the worst candidate on the ballot. She wants "open borders" and the free flow of people, if that happens the country is done, atleast when Rome fell it was mainly still Romans.

"As President, I will use my Constitutional authority to eliminate trade barriers & tariffs, and work to repeal arbitrary quotas on the number of people who can legally enter the United States to work, visit, or reside. “- Jo Jorgensen

You cant have freedom without order, the Libertarian pipe dream is just as successful as the Communist one.

Re: shall not be infringed [Re: danny clifton] #6938449
07/22/20 11:53 AM
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I still think Biden is worse.

Re: shall not be infringed [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6938489
07/22/20 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
She is the worst candidate on the ballot. She wants "open borders" and the free flow of people, if that happens the country is done, atleast when Rome fell it was mainly still Romans.

"As President, I will use my Constitutional authority to eliminate trade barriers & tariffs, and work to repeal arbitrary quotas on the number of people who can legally enter the United States to work, visit, or reside. “- Jo Jorgensen

You cant have freedom without order, the Libertarian pipe dream is just as successful as the Communist one.


Did you miss the words "legally enter" in the quote? Our country has plenty of deadbeats sitting on their couches surfing the internet. It makes economic and political sense to fill jobs with people who legally enter this country and who want to work.

I'm with anyone who wants to protect freedom. The Republican and Democrat options have and want to continue trampling on the Constitution.

Re: shall not be infringed [Re: Blaine County] #6938494
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Originally Posted by Blaine County


Did you miss the words "legally enter" in the quote? Our country has plenty of deadbeats sitting on their couches surfing the internet. It makes economic and political sense to fill jobs with people who legally enter this country and who want to work.


Reread the quote

Re: shall not be infringed [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6938529
07/22/20 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
She is the worst candidate on the ballot. She wants "open borders" and the free flow of people, if that happens the country is done, atleast when Rome fell it was mainly still Romans.

"As President, I will use my Constitutional authority to eliminate trade barriers & tariffs, and work to repeal arbitrary quotas on the number of people who can legally enter the United States to work, visit, or reside. “- Jo Jorgensen

You cant have freedom without order, the Libertarian pipe dream is just as successful as the Communist one.


That's the libertarian platform. I'm almost libertarian except for the open borders thing.


-Ryan
Re: shall not be infringed [Re: danny clifton] #6938692
07/22/20 03:40 PM
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I'm going to play devil's advocate here and ask what is the reasons you gentlemen are against open borders as the Libetarian party puts it?


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Re: shall not be infringed [Re: danny clifton] #6938706
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Same as letting the door to your house open isn't it?

Re: shall not be infringed [Re: Steven 49er] #6938772
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
I'm going to play devil's advocate here and ask what is the reasons you gentlemen are against open borders as the Libetarian party puts it?

If you don't already recognize why, ........ no explanation will satisfy you.

Re: shall not be infringed [Re: danny clifton] #6938777
07/22/20 04:46 PM
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Re: shall not be infringed [Re: danny clifton] #6938788
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Cant people legally cross the border already?

Re: shall not be infringed [Re: Steven 49er] #6938792
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
I'm going to play devil's advocate here and ask what is the reasons you gentlemen are against open borders as the Libetarian party puts it?


Do you lock your doors at night? The same reason you can not have open borders. With the way our system work the free loaders would be the first in line, and who would be paying for it. If you do not know you have your head in the sand. JMO


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Re: shall not be infringed [Re: danny clifton] #6938818
07/22/20 05:32 PM
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Sovereignty. A person without it is a slave and so is a nation.

Re: shall not be infringed [Re: danny clifton] #6938880
07/22/20 06:46 PM
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There is a big difference between "open borders" and legal immigration dictated by the demand for labor. There are plenty of jobs, and not all manual labor, better filled by immigrant labor. If you don't agree, try to convince some of the welfare queens in Chicago to move to California for a job picking vegetables.

Re: shall not be infringed [Re: danny clifton] #6939272
07/22/20 11:13 PM
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Yep. Allowing people who just want to work and feed their kids, want to become Americans, I dont have a problem with them. If we made it easier for honest hard working people to come here legally maybe it would be easier to keep out the riff raff. Cut back on and work to end welfare, will stop a lot of deadbeats from wanting to come in. Will also get lazy welfare people off the couch and working.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: shall not be infringed [Re: danny clifton] #6939273
07/22/20 11:15 PM
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P.S. our country could sure enough use more honest hardworking people


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: shall not be infringed [Re: danny clifton] #6939336
07/23/20 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
P.S. our country could sure enough use more honest hardworking people


Completely agree. I think the country has gone soft in terms of that. My grandpa was of the Greatest Generation. I always admired and have a lot of respect for that generation.


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Re: shall not be infringed [Re: danny clifton] #6939344
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If we brought in 500,000,000 people and doubled our gdp think of how rich we would all be.

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