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Re: solar or generator
[Re: Rockfarmer]
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07/22/20 12:26 PM
07/22/20 12:26 PM
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Meeting people after large tornados or hurricanes, the owners of back up generators like the ones advertised all over TV are very happy with their investment. That being said, I am told by others there is enough grant and / or subsidy money to make solar arrays very attractive right now.
JMO- either one would be good but together you would be near bullet proof. Solar to eliminate your monthly bill and then invest that money in a generac once you had the solar paid off.
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Re: solar or generator
[Re: Rockfarmer]
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07/22/20 12:50 PM
07/22/20 12:50 PM
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Solar is a poor choice for a back up power source. Solar works when you're getting your electric from the grid. Solar only makes electric when the sun is shining. With most solar systems, you put electric into the grid when the sun is shining and take electric from the grid when the sun isn't shining. You pay for the net difference so your electric bill is lower. Most solar systems won't work when you can't get electric from the grid. Without power from the grid, solar requires a big bank of batteries to deliver power when the sun isn't shining. You charge the batteries during the day and use that power at night. A battery bank costs thousands and needs to be replaced about every 5 years.
A generator is less expensive and less complicated.
-Ryan
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Re: solar or generator
[Re: maintenanceguy]
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07/22/20 01:18 PM
07/22/20 01:18 PM
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Solar is a poor choice for a back up power source. Solar works when you're getting your electric from the grid. Solar only makes electric when the sun is shining. With most solar systems, you put electric into the grid when the sun is shining and take electric from the grid when the sun isn't shining. You pay for the net difference so your electric bill is lower. Most solar systems won't work when you can't get electric from the grid. Without power from the grid, solar requires a big bank of batteries to deliver power when the sun isn't shining. You charge the batteries during the day and use that power at night. A battery bank costs thousands and needs to be replaced about every 5 years.
A generator is less expensive and less complicated. And if the storm takes out your panels, then what? A good generator is much cheaper than the same amount of panels required to get the same amount of power. Both may still require some maintenance but I would think the generator would be cheaper and easier to work with. Just make sure you have enough fresh gas on hand before you need it.
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Re: solar or generator
[Re: Rockfarmer]
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07/22/20 01:30 PM
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I would advise you towards them generator too. If you are handy with electricity it’s ok to go with a automatic double throw switch. Because if it doesn’t work it can be wired around. If you’re not get a manual double throw. It’s convenient to have the juice come on automatically after main power is lost, but the auto units have electric components that can and do fail. Good luck
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Re: solar or generator
[Re: Rockfarmer]
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07/22/20 01:56 PM
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i have checked into it and with the battery cost and low life span of them or high cost of lithium batteries solar sounds expensive. I would go with a water turbine if you had a stream or water above you way more cost affective than solar. I use a generator at our camp and a couple batteries it charges for night time use.
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Re: solar or generator
[Re: Rockfarmer]
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07/22/20 02:20 PM
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We have a 30 kw Kohler gen set. Sure is nice to have when either snow or wind takes down trees on the powerlines. Ps we have lots of trees in N Idaho. Auto transfer switch and you never when the power blips out. Our unit is propane.
The real Wally
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Re: solar or generator
[Re: hippie]
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07/22/20 03:11 PM
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Generator first, everyone should have one imo.
Then if you think you want solar, go for it. This. I have both. The generator is the no nonsense work horse. Mine has remote start and stop buttons in different buildings. You can also get the auto switch that turns the generator on automatically when power is lost. Mine is in its own building and hooked to a good car battery for starting. Honda ultra quiet 7k. Incredible power plant. Osky
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Re: solar or generator
[Re: Rockfarmer]
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07/22/20 03:37 PM
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both grid tie solar to lower your monthly bills and a backup generator for when the lines are down.
maintaining batteries only works for limited loads.
assuming you want more than a few lights while the power is out like maintaining 3-4 freezers.
Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 07/22/20 03:38 PM.
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