Re: Does American law allow for moral violence?
[Re: k snow]
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Here in KS it is legal to come to the defense of another. It is unlikely you would be prosecuted here and even more unlikely a jury would unanimously find you guilty.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Does American law allow for moral violence?
[Re: k snow]
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Defense of self and others is always a personal moral obligation. Punishment for crimes already committed is rightfully the obligation of the state and not within the right of an individual.
If the state doesn't take care of it like they should.... "Vengeance is MINE, sayeth the LORD. I will repay".
I'm confident that the rider on the white horse, wearing robes drenched in the blood of his enemies, can settle the score far better than I could ever dream of doing.
What from Christ that soul can sever, Bound by everlasting bands? None shall take thee From the Strength of Israel's hands.
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Re: Does American law allow for moral violence?
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I am obligated to defend my life, liberty and the pursuit of my happiness. These are my God given rights. I will not kneel.
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Re: Does American law allow for moral violence?
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Problem is it is only something you allegedly saw until the person is convicted. Not saying I wouldn't do the same but it could result in charges against you for your actions.
Wish I had more time to trap....
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Re: Does American law allow for moral violence?
[Re: strike2x]
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Problem is it is only something you allegedly saw until the person is convicted. Not saying I wouldn't do the same but it could result in charges against you for your actions. How would or why should that be different than I "allegedly" saw a man draw a knife on me and I shoot him in self defense?
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Re: Does American law allow for moral violence?
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And should it? Self defense is legal, in extreme cases though with a boat load of other consequences.
Why can't I beat a child molester senseless? If I saw it happen, there isn't a law in the world that would stop me. I would very well be charged with battery, assault or attempted homicide.
American "justice" has become toothless. How do we get the teeth back? I would dish out the beating and take my chances with a jury on that one.
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Re: Does American law allow for moral violence?
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Exactly. Does our federal law allow someone to kill the man in that photo? Or the man recently convicted of 64 counts of child sexual abuse that plead down to 1 year of time served? He should be nothing more than a blood stain in the grass.
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Re: Does American law allow for moral violence?
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And should it? Self defense is legal, in extreme cases though with a boat load of other consequences.
Why can't I beat a child molester senseless? If I saw it happen, there isn't a law in the world that would stop me. I would very well be charged with battery, assault or attempted homicide.
American "justice" has become toothless. How do we get the teeth back? I would dish out the beating and take my chances with a jury on that one. X1000
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Re: Does American law allow for moral violence?
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Ain't for you to say, it's for you, how you vote and we are getting out voted by the absolute dumbest weirdest people on earth that can't take a minute and look up to see how things are being played out on the world stage. People, Citizens are actually putting people in office who appoint Judges and DA's and such in place to make way for craziness. My Gpa, in the 60's said that if ever a man violated a youngin we put him in a coal shed, his tallywhacker in a vise and we handed him a dull knife, then we set fire to the coal shed. He then had a choice, did he not?
I do disagree with white. No matter, here, we have the right to due process. No matter what!
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Does American law allow for moral violence?
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From the good book.... Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings (The Lord of the Rings, #1-3)
Who is John Galt?
You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.
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Re: Does American law allow for moral violence?
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American "justice" has become toothless. How do we get the teeth back? Vote for candidates of the party that supports American values and that puts American citizens ahead of their own desire for political power.
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