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Over the counter hydroxychloroquine #6943788
07/26/20 07:25 PM
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A doctor recently on the Ingram angle suggested that Hydroxychloroquine he sold over the counter. She said it would save a lot of lives or extend the lives of many people. Everything that Iíve read leads me to believe that sheís on the right track. I wish It could be because itís an inexpensive drug she said it was safer hours are as safe as Tylenol.At least thatís what I understand from what Iíve read.She said people were not being treated soon enough or that It needs to be treated early or even use it as a preventative. I honestly believe sheís right.
From what I understand very few have been treated with anything other than Tylenol or ibuprofen. Maybe some I have talk to some that say they only been treated with dexamethasone. Thatís not enough in my opinion. At least we should be given the opportunity to treat ourselves if thereís no harm in the drug itself when used properly.


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Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Kirk De] #6943820
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That's not part of there agenda. They don't care what we think.

Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Kirk De] #6944043
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People are different but I assure you I'm not safe taking that stuff. It of vicodin makes me a dumb (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) who doesnt even care that I'm a dumb (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). Morphine and Diladid make me nap without end.


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Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Kirk De] #6944048
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I'd try it if I knew I had direct contact with the virus.
It's been around a long time.

Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Kirk De] #6944051
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my brother in law takes hydroxy daily for arthritis in his hands. his wife, my sister, had corona so bad that she spent 12 nights in the mayo hospital in rochester. he never contracted it from her, even with 7 day a week exposure to the virus. remdesivir is the only thing that kept my sis off a ventilator, and most likely saved her life. thats my familys experience with the 2 controversial drugs being used for this virus.

a while back, dr.'s were saying they couldnt find a single person who took hydroxy as a scheduled drug, who tested positive for corona. i dont know if thats changed in the months following.

Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Kirk De] #6944115
07/27/20 07:59 AM
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Fossil sorry to hear about your sister but glad she is doing better. Can you tell me about the hydroxy and itís effects on arthritis? Are the symptoms relieved to a point of use or does it take pain away temporarily?
Thanks

Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Kirk De] #6944145
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Hydroxychloroquine (also known by the brand name Plaquenil) is not a magic bullet for arthritis but it helps some people, is cheap, and has relative few side effects (not listening to the smear job the big media did on the drug after DJT said it might be good for covid). My dad was on it for about 15 years. His RA burned out (for whatever reason) and he lived his last 5 years or so mostly free of it. He still took his Palquenil up through his last days.

My brother is a fairly outspoken physician and isn't "owned" by any major health care system. He has told me that the best effectiveness of the "'quines" against covid is in a cocktail of hydroxychloroquine, an anti-macrophage antibiotic such as azithromycin (brand name Zithromax), and zinc. All are generally needed together because of what each does against the virus. And yes, he also used dexamethasone, a cheap potent steroid for the inflammation that covid causes in the lungs. He hasn't had scores of covid patients but with the less than the 10 he's had, he hasn't lost a single one. With the sickest one, he was being pressured daily during the first week to put that person on a vent but because he was seeing small improvements happening every day, he refused. Mechanical ventilation for covid patients should be the last resort because its generally known now its better than a 50-50 chance that they will either not survive or will ever come off of one for a variety of reasons. Remember, this was a new disease and the medical field was making things up as they went along, and when its all written up, there were some pathways that were gone down, that in the end, didn't have very good results...


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Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Kirk De] #6944147
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^ interesting and I like the first hand info.


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Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Kirk De] #6944256
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mchewk,,,the hydroxy was a great help to johns arthritis, but he wasnt to the point of being handicapped by it. hes been taking it for years now, and theres been no further advancement of the disease. i believe he takes 200mg's once a day. i heard the main uses for hydroxy as a scheduled drug is for arthritis and lupus. some dr's specialize in one or the other of these diseases, and using their patient lists, they couldnt find a patient taking hydroxy, that tested positive for covid. seems to act as a preventative for covid, and johns case seems to back this up.

Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Leftlane] #6944278
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
People are different but I assure you I'm not safe taking that stuff. It of vicodin makes me a dumb (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) who doesnt even care that I'm a dumb (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). Morphine and Diladid make me nap without end.



LOL NOT the same family of drugs !!!! You are comparing it to HYDROCODONE !! Or I think you are , since the other to are narcotics....
It's basically souped up advil and valtrexe combined. anti inflammatory and anti viral .

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Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Kirk De] #6944286
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I had a bad bout with diverticulitis and developed an auto immune inflammatory response. EVERY muscle in my body is cramping and twitching. Some mornings legs won't support me. 4 Dr visits and 11 blood draws they say I have 1 inflammation marker that is messed up. BUT good news ,bad news, 14 different things can be causeing it. THE ONE MED is hydroxychloriquine they use to treat it. Go back Friday to get prescript and start on it.

Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Kirk De] #6944404
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Thanks guys good info

Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Kirk De] #6944469
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My wife and I have asked several doctors here in Fairbanks for a prescription of it and all have said its too dangerous. I told my Oncology Doctor to review the information on it and have not received a call back after 2 weeks. They just won't even give it a chance. There have been a death every day for the last 2 days. THE HATE FOR TRUMP IS WHY IT IS NOT USED HERE!!!!! People are dying and they won't use it, CRIMINAL!!!!!

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Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Kirk De] #6944521
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I used to take quinine starting in the late 80's for severe leg cramps. My father in law told me about it. It was available over the counter in any drug store. After about five years, it was removed from over the counter to prescription only. I got a prescription from my Dr. and continued to take it. The price about tripled though, from about $7 a bottle, 100 pills I think, to about $20 for the same. Then after several more years it was suddenly not available at all. The pharmacists told me that that it was removed because it could cause a heart problems for people that were taking certain heart meds. After that I never could get it again. Dr. told me no.

Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Kirk De] #6944827
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I donít know how to Link it, but people need to see the Doctors addressing the misinformation about COVID. I think theyíre outside the Supreme Court building. Search for American doctors address Covid misinformation at SCOTUS press conference.

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Originally Posted by YamaCat
I donít know how to Link it, but people need to see the Doctors addressing the misinformation about COVID. I think theyíre outside the Supreme Court building. Search for American doctors address Covid misinformation at SCOTUS press conference.

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Originally Posted by swenny
Originally Posted by YamaCat
I donít know how to Link it, but people need to see the Doctors addressing the misinformation about COVID. I think theyíre outside the Supreme Court building. Search for American doctors address Covid misinformation at SCOTUS press conference.


Yup. I still need to watch it as it's 45 minutes. I did watch a 5 minute clip of it and it was fantastic. I shared it on my fb and was going to share the link but fb blocked it hahaha

Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Kirk De] #6944943
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Yeah saw that to..frontline doctors is their website, unbelievable what they're saying about the hydroxy cocktail..we've been had by main media, and big pharma. This is a cure and a preventative medicine for most, not all, but most..The one women doc had treated over 350 patients and not one death, yet its hard obtain it for use?? The (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) is sold over the counter in other countries..(This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)..how many deaths could have been prevented?? All Americans should be outraged!!! I'm not buying this bs about our safety,masks,social dist etc...blah blah fu......lies!!!!!! They (govt) don't give a (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) about America or its citizens...greedy sobs

Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Kirk De] #6944952
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Found it. Watch it asap. Media social media are blocking it


Re: Over the counter hydroxychloroquine [Re: Kirk De] #6944953
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Hydrochloroquine could bring people back from the dead and it would get no credit since Trump endorsed it as a possible theraputic for Covid.

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