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MN mask mandate #6946167
07/29/20 08:43 AM
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"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6946187
07/29/20 09:01 AM
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I walked into a antique shop of all places and I was asked to put on a mask. I said is it mandatory? and she said they could have to pay a large fine if I was not wearing a mask in their store.

So the governor is making an illegal law, and expecting civilian store owners to take the place of law enforcement and enforce his illegal law for him. Unreal.

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6946190
07/29/20 09:05 AM
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Just wear one....

It won't kill ya!


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Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6946191
07/29/20 09:06 AM
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I was told that it was unenforceable if there was less than 25 documented cases of Covid 19 in your county.


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Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6946286
07/29/20 11:02 AM
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It’s unenforceable statewide.


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6946289
07/29/20 11:06 AM
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I have one of those mask that go around your neck then you eaisly pull it up, everyone was "on guard" when I met them like that, very uncomfortable feeling.

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6946290
07/29/20 11:08 AM
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They have workers standing at the door in some stores here and they won't let you in without a mask unless you say you have a medical condition. Weird times we're in.....


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: MN mask mandate [Re: 330-Trapper] #6946296
07/29/20 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Just wear one....

It won't kill ya!


That is where I am at. I don't like them but it isn't killing me.


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Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6946302
07/29/20 11:24 AM
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I too put one on,Not that big of an inconvenience,unless you make it one.
Tom


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Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6946317
07/29/20 11:37 AM
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Not happy at all with the process in our state, but if my inconvenience helps prevent one person from becoming ill, I will put up with the mask.


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Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6946329
07/29/20 11:51 AM
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Tuck,thats how I look at it.
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Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6946346
07/29/20 12:08 PM
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Those of you saying just wear one are part of the problem. The issue isn't the mask or the wearing of one, it is the mandate, the government overreach. The destruction of personal choice and personal liberties. There's plenty of evidence that them wearing of a mask has no bearing on the spread of any virus, so that's the other side of the mask debate, but It's not about the mask.

Saying "Just wear the mask" presumes you have the right to tell others what to do. Bad habit to get into.

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Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6946368
07/29/20 12:24 PM
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But but but, if we can save just one.....


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: MN mask mandate [Re: BernieB.] #6946391
07/29/20 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
Those of you saying just wear one are part of the problem. The issue isn't the mask or the wearing of one, it is the mandate, the government overreach. The destruction of personal choice and personal liberties. There's plenty of evidence that them wearing of a mask has no bearing on the spread of any virus, so that's the other side of the mask debate, but It's not about the mask.

Saying "Just wear the mask" presumes you have the right to tell others what to do. Bad habit to get into.


I have spent years railing against govt overreach to my friends only to have them shrug it off, now they are all wound up about something as stupid as mask. It's almost as if we were expected to take our fusterations on mask instead to pedofile island, rioters burning cities and an insurmountable debt being stacked up.

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6946426
07/29/20 01:01 PM
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My wife works in a daycare center in Dane county that now requires everyone 5 yrs of age and up to wear a mask. I am amazed at the number of you that constantly harp on us to just follow the mandate and do what some else thinks is best for us. “Just put the mask on,” you say. It has been 7 working days since the mandate came down. Every child in my wife’s class of 5 and 6 yr olds now has a runny nose. Also several kids by the end of the day complain of headaches, every day. My wife works 10 hr shifts there and feels sick by noon. This doesn’t even scratch the surface of the mental issues the mask creates. These kids all day tell each other to “stay away” or “I can’t play with you.” “Am I sick with the covid teacher?” Breathe you own breath for 10 hrs and tell me it doesn’t affect you. Unbelievable. Why are people so ignorant?

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: BernieB.] #6946444
07/29/20 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
Those of you saying just wear one are part of the problem. The issue isn't the mask or the wearing of one, it is the mandate, the government overreach. The destruction of personal choice and personal liberties. There's plenty of evidence that them wearing of a mask has no bearing on the spread of any virus, so that's the other side of the mask debate, but It's not about the mask.

Saying "Just wear the mask" presumes you have the right to tell others what to do. Bad habit to get into.


I haven't seen any research that supports masks making it WORSE. The governor says to wear one along with many cities and it makes the people around me feel better so I am ok with it. I view this like when seat belts became law. Everyone whined about it and sited that in some cases they actually inflicted more harm than without them yet today putting on a seat belt is habit and no one thinks twice about it. I think the bulk of the push back is because wearing a mask is a CHANGE and none of like that.

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Re: MN mask mandate [Re: Howell Bros] #6946460
07/29/20 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Howell Bros
My wife works in a daycare center in Dane county that now requires everyone 5 yrs of age and up to wear a mask. I am amazed at the number of you that constantly harp on us to just follow the mandate and do what some else thinks is best for us. “Just put the mask on,” you say. It has been 7 working days since the mandate came down. Every child in my wife’s class of 5 and 6 yr olds now has a runny nose. Also several kids by the end of the day complain of headaches, every day. My wife works 10 hr shifts there and feels sick by noon. This doesn’t even scratch the surface of the mental issues the mask creates. These kids all day tell each other to “stay away” or “I can’t play with you.” “Am I sick with the covid teacher?” Breathe you own breath for 10 hrs and tell me it doesn’t affect you. Unbelievable. Why are people so ignorant?

Well for me, my employer requires it. And I'll wear a mask if it means I get to keep my job that I like. At this point I look at it like any other PPE, if your employer says you have to wear your safety glasses or hard hat to work here... are you going to tell them to pound sand?


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Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6946462
07/29/20 01:36 PM
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Local deputy said they would have an extremely difficult time enforcing this mandate. He said they have better things to do and compared it to making someone pull up their pants. Yesterday in Walmart I seen two employees wearing their masks under their chin. I understand that if your caught not wearing one, a supervisor might try to talk you into wearing one, but if you tell them no they won't ask you to leave. My thoughts are that when we quarantined, some of us should have stayed home instead of heading up to the lake home and such. By doing this they just spread it around instead of containing it. This late in the game is like handing out condoms at a baby shower.

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Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6946536
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This is NOT like seat belts. The science behind seat belts was and is conclusive, evidence tested, it has a HIGH level of scientific validity. The only available science on the benefits of masks for Covid-19 are case reviews. Case reviews are the lowest level of the scientific validity pyramid. Why are they the lowest level? Because you can't control any variables, you can only review what happened in a certain case. Case reviews are good for coming up with studies for the future like randomized controlled trials, and repeatable studies that can either prove or disprove the case review. Unfortunately, good science doesn't work at pandemic speed.

160user, the reason you haven't seen scientific reviews on whether masks can make things worse is because there isn't any good science to review! I actually sincerely hope that good science with high levels of validity come out that validate masks are effective. They're easy to use and it wouldn't be a big deal. The big deal is that Government is making laws based on science that has the lowest possible level of validity. In my state they're mandating that 2 year old children wear a mask. That is absurd. And beyond that, the mask propaganda that is leading to community members and neighbors judging, dividing, and fighting. That's the worst part. Again, I hope that better science comes along that proves that masks work, I want them to work. But alas, The world health organization continues to say:

"At the present time, the widespread use of masks everywhere is not supported by high-quality scientific evidence, and there are potential benefits and harms to consider."

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: BernieB.] #6946547
07/29/20 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
Those of you saying just wear one are part of the problem. The issue isn't the mask or the wearing of one, it is the mandate, the government overreach. The destruction of personal choice and personal liberties. There's plenty of evidence that them wearing of a mask has no bearing on the spread of any virus, so that's the other side of the mask debate, but It's not about the mask.

Saying "Just wear the mask" presumes you have the right to tell others what to do. Bad habit to get into.

I don't usually say stuff like this but

GO JUMP IN A LAKE!

749 POSTS ABOUT FREEDOM LOST. Whine and moan . IF IT COULD prevent Your family frm harm Ill slip on a mask. Good Grief!!!!!


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