Re: MN mask mandate
[Re: trapper les]
#6946191
07/29/20 09:06 AM
07/29/20 09:06 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 5,539 West Central MN
20scout
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 5,539
West Central MN
|
I was told that it was unenforceable if there was less than 25 documented cases of Covid 19 in your county.
Common sense is a not a vegetable that does well in everyone's garden.
|
|
|
Re: MN mask mandate
[Re: trapper les]
#6946286
07/29/20 11:02 AM
07/29/20 11:02 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 25,420 williams,mn
trapper les
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 25,420
williams,mn
|
It’s unenforceable statewide.
"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
|
|
|
Re: MN mask mandate
[Re: trapper les]
#6946290
07/29/20 11:08 AM
07/29/20 11:08 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 16,951 OH
Catch22
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 16,951
OH
|
They have workers standing at the door in some stores here and they won't let you in without a mask unless you say you have a medical condition. Weird times we're in.....
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
|
|
|
Re: MN mask mandate
[Re: 330-Trapper]
#6946296
07/29/20 11:15 AM
07/29/20 11:15 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 17,923 MN
160user
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 17,923
MN
|
Just wear one....
It won't kill ya! That is where I am at. I don't like them but it isn't killing me.
I have nothing clever to put here.
|
|
|
Re: MN mask mandate
[Re: trapper les]
#6946302
07/29/20 11:24 AM
07/29/20 11:24 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,278 Lakeland,Minnesota
Bogmaster
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,278
Lakeland,Minnesota
|
I too put one on,Not that big of an inconvenience,unless you make it one. Tom
If my feet aren't wet,I must not be trapping. Tom Olson MTA life member#100,also WTA life member
|
|
|
Re: MN mask mandate
[Re: trapper les]
#6946346
07/29/20 12:08 PM
07/29/20 12:08 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,242 Northern Minnesota
BernieB.
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 5,242
Northern Minnesota
|
Those of you saying just wear one are part of the problem. The issue isn't the mask or the wearing of one, it is the mandate, the government overreach. The destruction of personal choice and personal liberties. There's plenty of evidence that them wearing of a mask has no bearing on the spread of any virus, so that's the other side of the mask debate, but It's not about the mask.
Saying "Just wear the mask" presumes you have the right to tell others what to do. Bad habit to get into.
Last edited by BernieB.; 07/29/20 12:09 PM.
|
|
|
Re: MN mask mandate
[Re: trapper les]
#6946368
07/29/20 12:24 PM
07/29/20 12:24 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 16,951 OH
Catch22
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 16,951
OH
|
But but but, if we can save just one.....
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
|
|
|
Re: MN mask mandate
[Re: BernieB.]
#6946391
07/29/20 12:38 PM
07/29/20 12:38 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 4,590 MN
Donnersurvivor
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 4,590
MN
|
Those of you saying just wear one are part of the problem. The issue isn't the mask or the wearing of one, it is the mandate, the government overreach. The destruction of personal choice and personal liberties. There's plenty of evidence that them wearing of a mask has no bearing on the spread of any virus, so that's the other side of the mask debate, but It's not about the mask.
Saying "Just wear the mask" presumes you have the right to tell others what to do. Bad habit to get into. I have spent years railing against govt overreach to my friends only to have them shrug it off, now they are all wound up about something as stupid as mask. It's almost as if we were expected to take our fusterations on mask instead to pedofile island, rioters burning cities and an insurmountable debt being stacked up.
|
|
|
Re: MN mask mandate
[Re: BernieB.]
#6946444
07/29/20 01:20 PM
07/29/20 01:20 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 17,923 MN
160user
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 17,923
MN
|
Those of you saying just wear one are part of the problem. The issue isn't the mask or the wearing of one, it is the mandate, the government overreach. The destruction of personal choice and personal liberties. There's plenty of evidence that them wearing of a mask has no bearing on the spread of any virus, so that's the other side of the mask debate, but It's not about the mask.
Saying "Just wear the mask" presumes you have the right to tell others what to do. Bad habit to get into. I haven't seen any research that supports masks making it WORSE. The governor says to wear one along with many cities and it makes the people around me feel better so I am ok with it. I view this like when seat belts became law. Everyone whined about it and sited that in some cases they actually inflicted more harm than without them yet today putting on a seat belt is habit and no one thinks twice about it. I think the bulk of the push back is because wearing a mask is a CHANGE and none of like that.
Last edited by 160user; 07/29/20 01:22 PM.
I have nothing clever to put here.
|
|
|
Re: MN mask mandate
[Re: Howell Bros]
#6946460
07/29/20 01:32 PM
07/29/20 01:32 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,337 SE MN
2cylinder
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,337
SE MN
|
My wife works in a daycare center in Dane county that now requires everyone 5 yrs of age and up to wear a mask. I am amazed at the number of you that constantly harp on us to just follow the mandate and do what some else thinks is best for us. “Just put the mask on,” you say. It has been 7 working days since the mandate came down. Every child in my wife’s class of 5 and 6 yr olds now has a runny nose. Also several kids by the end of the day complain of headaches, every day. My wife works 10 hr shifts there and feels sick by noon. This doesn’t even scratch the surface of the mental issues the mask creates. These kids all day tell each other to “stay away” or “I can’t play with you.” “Am I sick with the covid teacher?” Breathe you own breath for 10 hrs and tell me it doesn’t affect you. Unbelievable. Why are people so ignorant? Well for me, my employer requires it. And I'll wear a mask if it means I get to keep my job that I like. At this point I look at it like any other PPE, if your employer says you have to wear your safety glasses or hard hat to work here... are you going to tell them to pound sand?
Rebuilding john deere and international/farmall carburetors
|
|
|
Re: MN mask mandate
[Re: trapper les]
#6946462
07/29/20 01:36 PM
07/29/20 01:36 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 5,539 West Central MN
20scout
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 5,539
West Central MN
|
Local deputy said they would have an extremely difficult time enforcing this mandate. He said they have better things to do and compared it to making someone pull up their pants. Yesterday in Walmart I seen two employees wearing their masks under their chin. I understand that if your caught not wearing one, a supervisor might try to talk you into wearing one, but if you tell them no they won't ask you to leave. My thoughts are that when we quarantined, some of us should have stayed home instead of heading up to the lake home and such. By doing this they just spread it around instead of containing it. This late in the game is like handing out condoms at a baby shower.
Last edited by 20scout; 07/29/20 04:06 PM.
Common sense is a not a vegetable that does well in everyone's garden.
|
|
|
Re: MN mask mandate
[Re: trapper les]
#6946536
07/29/20 02:40 PM
07/29/20 02:40 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 375 NW PA
washxc
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 375
NW PA
|
This is NOT like seat belts. The science behind seat belts was and is conclusive, evidence tested, it has a HIGH level of scientific validity. The only available science on the benefits of masks for Covid-19 are case reviews. Case reviews are the lowest level of the scientific validity pyramid. Why are they the lowest level? Because you can't control any variables, you can only review what happened in a certain case. Case reviews are good for coming up with studies for the future like randomized controlled trials, and repeatable studies that can either prove or disprove the case review. Unfortunately, good science doesn't work at pandemic speed.
160user, the reason you haven't seen scientific reviews on whether masks can make things worse is because there isn't any good science to review! I actually sincerely hope that good science with high levels of validity come out that validate masks are effective. They're easy to use and it wouldn't be a big deal. The big deal is that Government is making laws based on science that has the lowest possible level of validity. In my state they're mandating that 2 year old children wear a mask. That is absurd. And beyond that, the mask propaganda that is leading to community members and neighbors judging, dividing, and fighting. That's the worst part. Again, I hope that better science comes along that proves that masks work, I want them to work. But alas, The world health organization continues to say:
"At the present time, the widespread use of masks everywhere is not supported by high-quality scientific evidence, and there are potential benefits and harms to consider."
|
|
|
Re: MN mask mandate
[Re: BernieB.]
#6946547
07/29/20 02:52 PM
07/29/20 02:52 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 63,231 Minnesota
330-Trapper
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 63,231
Minnesota
|
Those of you saying just wear one are part of the problem. The issue isn't the mask or the wearing of one, it is the mandate, the government overreach. The destruction of personal choice and personal liberties. There's plenty of evidence that them wearing of a mask has no bearing on the spread of any virus, so that's the other side of the mask debate, but It's not about the mask.
Saying "Just wear the mask" presumes you have the right to tell others what to do. Bad habit to get into. I don't usually say stuff like this but GO JUMP IN A LAKE! 749 POSTS ABOUT FREEDOM LOST. Whine and moan . IF IT COULD prevent Your family frm harm Ill slip on a mask. Good Grief!!!!!
NRA and NTA Life Member www.BackroadsRevised@etsy.com
|
|
|
|
|