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Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947366 07/30/20 06:21 AM 07/30/20 06:21 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,882 SE Kentucky K kytrapper trapper
kytrapper trapper K Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,882 SE Kentucky	I’ve lived here in my little corner of Kentucky for over 50 years and kind of know people around here. I can say definitively that MOST liberals are submitting to the governors mask mandate and MOST conservatives are ignoring him. This thing is much larger than what’s on the surface with the masks. I can tell when I have gone into a few places the want to tell me to mask up but haven’t yet. I don’t care if I ever go in Walmart but Kroger is becoming difficult. They have a program where they bring your groceries out to your car. Mostly what I have seen using that are welfare type people around here. Still getting medicine at the drive through. What’s concerning to me is the “:tell n you” hotline the liberal governor Has set up to beat businesses into compliance with the threat of shutting them down. He expects the health depts. to be his enforcers. He is killing small eateries and I expect the schools to come up with something big in a few weeks as most teachers helped put him in there.

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947385 07/30/20 06:56 AM 07/30/20 06:56 AM
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Mark June Unregistered M	So let's ask the question, "What is the expected health outcome of mask wearing?" Is it to reduce Covid-19 morbidity and mortality? If that answer is "no," we can pitch the masks. If that answer is "yes." Good. Now we know the plan. Reduce morbidity (complications) and morbidity (death) due to a objective criteria. Let's start with cigarettes (decreased oxygenation of the lungs). Let's pitch the junk food (obesity factor). Abolish alcohol (alcohol diminishes the oxygenation processes). And on and on we go, When I see someone pull down their mask to smoke during a C-19 "pandemic," it's probably best they not judge others. Blessings! Mark

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947443 07/30/20 07:56 AM 07/30/20 07:56 AM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 25,413 williams,mn trapper les OP trapper
trapper les OP trapper Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 25,413 williams,mn	Steven, I did see that bill board. The masks are just part of a bigger manipulation of the masses before an election. Trump will probably win despite the liberals attempt to control everyone and destroy the economy to make him look bad. I'm not buying it, not wearing a mask to promote a political agenda., lol , ( or...not wearing one to do the same). Amazing how just a small few people would do about anything to win, and millions would blindly follow. Sheep analogies have been used since biblical times, "Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947474 07/30/20 08:35 AM 07/30/20 08:35 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,182 Idaville, Indiana M MB750 trapper
MB750 trapper M Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,182 Idaville, Indiana	The Indiana mandated that all Indiana residents 8 and over have to wear them, only to be told by the AG it is illegal. No problem, it is the Gov's order. I refuse to comply. Guess I always was a rebel. For years I have been tomstrap, now I must change because of the whims of the cyber world. NRA Life, ISTA Life, FTA Life, NTA Life

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947482 07/30/20 08:41 AM 07/30/20 08:41 AM
Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 5,516 West Central MN 20scout trapper
20scout trapper Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 5,516 West Central MN	Originally Posted by trapper les Steven, I did see that bill board. The masks are just part of a bigger manipulation of the masses before an election. Trump will probably win despite the liberals attempt to control everyone and destroy the economy to make him look bad. I'm not buying it, not wearing a mask to promote a political agenda., lol , ( or...not wearing one to do the same). Amazing how just a small few people would do about anything to win, and millions would blindly follow. Sheep analogies have been used since biblical times, Our governor has mandated masks on the basis of medical treatment. How is a mask medical treatment? At best it would be medical prevention. At worst case, law enforcement might have a talk with you to encourage you to ware a mask but I have yet to hear of anyone getting fined for not wearing one. Right now the plan for school is the bus driver takes the students temperature and if the students has a temp or refuses to ware a mask, the driver still takes them to school and the parents are to pick them up. How is that going to do any good? This fall could be very interesting to say the least. If the Democrats get in, it's got to be a mess. If Trump gets in, the Democrats will be even more upset and things will get worse for all of is. I feel it's going to be a powder keg just waiting to blow. Really hope I'm wrong about all of this but don't see things turning out very well for the average Joe. Common sense is a not a vegetable that does well in everyone's garden.

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947489 07/30/20 08:47 AM 07/30/20 08:47 AM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,991 South Dakota R Rat Masterson trapper
Rat Masterson trapper R Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,991 South Dakota	Can't go to school but we will need day care providers to ramp up.

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947543 07/30/20 09:39 AM 07/30/20 09:39 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,882 SE Kentucky K kytrapper trapper
kytrapper trapper K Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,882 SE Kentucky	Here, the way it’s playing out is that some, many already have well before, WANT to be provided for and told what they should do for some form of guaranteed existence from the govt. They align themselves with the political party that’s Santa Claus. They really don’t love freedom and it’s a “ misery loves company” thing. They also severely resent those of us who are keeping them up by working and paying taxes. I don’t know where they think it’ll come from if it were to change. MOST of the ones I see that are having their groceries brought out to the car at Kroger didn’t pay for them, won’t walk in to get them now and it’s “ heatum’ up eatum’ up stuff. Like I said, the up or down opinion on the masks is very minor in the larger scale of what’s going on. Here, in Kentucky, it’s basically a sheep count.

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: Rat Masterson] #6947550 07/30/20 09:48 AM 07/30/20 09:48 AM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 11,201 Armpit, ak D Dirt trapper
Dirt trapper D Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 11,201 Armpit, ak	Originally Posted by Rat Masterson Can't go to school but we will need day care providers to ramp up. Good! Us conservatives don't believe in Socialism like Public schools. We hate Socialism. Seriously, You non-sheep are not sending your kids to a public school, like the sheep do? Last edited by Dirt; 07/30/20 09:50 AM. Who is John Galt?

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947583 07/30/20 10:19 AM 07/30/20 10:19 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 926 NW Oklahoma O Okie Farmer trapper
Okie Farmer trapper O Joined: May 2008 Posts: 926 NW Oklahoma	How many of you see the number of covid cases listed as a percentage of the population on the daily news reports? Not any is my quess because the numbers wouldn't be scary presented that way.

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947589 07/30/20 10:24 AM 07/30/20 10:24 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,523 WI>>>MN >>>WI T-Rex trapper
T-Rex trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,523 WI>>>MN >>>WI	What are the odds of me getting Covid? Pretty danged low What are the odds of me dying from Covid? Negligible, even as a septugedarian What are the odds of the government fearmongers destroying the entire economy including my existence over this? Danged near 100% Here is my rational, if not scientific solution: Mandate, and enforce masks and social distancing for 4 weeks--NOT ONE MINUTE LONGER At the end of 4 weeks we will finally have a good understanding if this works or not. If it worked the virus will have been starved out of existence. It it did not work. pitch the whole idea as an ill conceived restriction. Either way, this crap is no longer necessary. Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947635 07/30/20 11:01 AM 07/30/20 11:01 AM
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 9,323 Northern MN O Osky trapper
Osky trapper O Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 9,323 Northern MN	Originally Posted by trapper les Steven, I did see that bill board. The masks are just part of a bigger manipulation of the masses before an election. Trump will probably win despite the liberals attempt to control everyone and destroy the economy to make him look bad. I'm not buying it, not wearing a mask to promote a political agenda., lol , ( or...not wearing one to do the same). Amazing how just a small few people would do about anything to win, and millions would blindly follow. Sheep analogies have been used since biblical times, I am in agreement Les. As for the folks who favor masks, more power to you and be sure and stay 6 feet away from me. I assure you I’m going to stay at least 6 feet away from you. As a matter of fact I don’t even like being within 6 feet of myself but It’s a handicap I’m stuck with. Do the 6’ distance things and were all safe were told so be it. All good. Oh and please don’t judge wether that means I do or don’t care, and I’ll extend to you the same courtesy. Osky "A womans heart is the hardest rock the Almighty has put on this earth, and I can find no sign on it" Jabless in Minnesota www.SureDockusa.com

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947696 07/30/20 11:52 AM 07/30/20 11:52 AM
Joined: May 2019 Posts: 1,354 Saskatchewan R rvsask trapper
rvsask trapper R Joined: May 2019 Posts: 1,354 Saskatchewan	Everyone is a sheep with a different shepherd, even the ones constantly screaming about sheep.

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947735 07/30/20 12:25 PM 07/30/20 12:25 PM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,174 Rochester, MN Teacher trapper
Teacher trapper Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,174 Rochester, MN	There are too many Karens out there who act entitled to do their own thing which might endanger others. These people who just have to be entertained In bars because having a beer at home Isn’t good enough; or have to be buying knicknacks at Walmart because getting out of the house couldn’t possibly mean going into their back yard. all of this coupled with the “I Have A Medical Excuse“ lie to avoid protecting others AND themselves makes for lots of sick people. I agree with the governor because wearing masks, social distancing, and staying home have been successful in other parts of the world and can be here too. Minnesota’s numbers aren’t bad. The recovery rate is about 90%, meaning we only have about 5,000 active cases in the state. Many, many other states aren’t doing as well. With people taking precautions, fewer getting sick and a high recovery rate, we’re doing pretty well. And If wearing a mask allows me to get out and do things, I’m happy to do so if it will keep the retirees and others in my city healthy. If you think it’s an imposition to wear a mask, at least show the curtesy of staying away from people. Never too old to learn

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: Teacher] #6947751 07/30/20 12:42 PM 07/30/20 12:42 PM
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 9,323 Northern MN O Osky trapper
Osky trapper O Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 9,323 Northern MN	Originally Posted by Teacher There are too many Karens out there who act entitled to do their own thing which might endanger others. These people who just have to be entertained In bars because having a beer at home Isn’t good enough; or have to be buying knicknacks at Walmart because getting out of the house couldn’t possibly mean going into their back yard. all of this coupled with the “I Have A Medical Excuse“ lie to avoid protecting others AND themselves makes for lots of sick people. I agree with the governor because wearing masks, social distancing, and staying home have been successful in other parts of the world and can be here too. Minnesota’s numbers aren’t bad. The recovery rate is about 90%, meaning we only have about 5,000 active cases in the state. Many, many other states aren’t doing as well. With people taking precautions, fewer getting sick and a high recovery rate, we’re doing pretty well. And If wearing a mask allows me to get out and do things, I’m happy to do so if it will keep the retirees and others in my city healthy. If you think it’s an imposition to wear a mask, at least show the curtesy of staying away from people. Are you trying to tell me 10% of the people do not recover?? I’d sure like to know where that number came from? Osky "A womans heart is the hardest rock the Almighty has put on this earth, and I can find no sign on it" Jabless in Minnesota www.SureDockusa.com

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947767 07/30/20 12:55 PM 07/30/20 12:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,219 Northern Minnesota BernieB. trapper
BernieB. trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,219 Northern Minnesota	Kids do not need to wear masks. Period. Only people with poor heath, seniors and people with preexisting conditions need to avoid this virus. For those of us in good health and in the prime of our life, it would be best for us to get the virus and get it over with. The Christian School where my wife works has a waiting list of more than 30 families for this upcoming school year and more coming in every day. This has never happened before. Not fully sure how this relates, but I am sure it has to do with government run schools' manipulations, of which masks are a part. www.berniesbearcamp.com https://www.youtube.com/user/BowhuntingRoad/about

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947776 07/30/20 01:03 PM 07/30/20 01:03 PM
Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 248 Owatonna,mn C Cibarius trapper
Cibarius trapper C Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 248 Owatonna,mn	Hey teacher, the definition of a Karen pretty much describes all you pro-mask crybabies.

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947781 07/30/20 01:12 PM 07/30/20 01:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,276 Lakeland,Minnesota B Bogmaster trapper
Bogmaster trapper B Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,276 Lakeland,Minnesota	Some of us wear the mask to protect others.Is that so hard to understand??? If it is,you have more than a mask problem. My main concern is my wifes health,and because I do the shopping,I appreciate those that wear masks,keep their distance from me,in an effort to keep from spreading the virus. Tom If my feet aren't wet,I must not be trapping. Tom Olson MTA life member#100,also WTA life member

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947795 07/30/20 01:28 PM 07/30/20 01:28 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,041 wyoming southeast D danvee trapper
danvee trapper D Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,041 wyoming southeast	They might have been voted on in Mn but else where it was made law by the law makers that were voted in not popular vote of the people.

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: trapper les] #6947796 07/30/20 01:29 PM 07/30/20 01:29 PM
Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 5,214 Crivitz WI Sprung & Rusty trapper
Sprung & Rusty trapper Joined: Dec 2018 Posts: 5,214 Crivitz WI	Bigfoot died from the virus. It was on another tread. No mask was found near or on it. No Jab.

Re: MN mask mandate [Re: Bogmaster] #6947798 07/30/20 01:36 PM 07/30/20 01:36 PM
Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 5,516 West Central MN 20scout trapper
20scout trapper Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 5,516 West Central MN	Originally Posted by Bogmaster Some of us wear the mask to protect others.Is that so hard to understand??? If it is,you have more than a mask problem. My main concern is my wifes health,and because I do the shopping,I appreciate those that wear masks,keep their distance from me,in an effort to keep from spreading the virus. Tom I'm sure you and others in the same situation would wear a mask even if it wasn't mandated. I can understand and appreciate that situation. Common sense is a not a vegetable that does well in everyone's garden.

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