Gee, I haven't been preaching this for months now.

CDC Chief Agrees There’s ‘Perverse’ Economic ‘Incentive’ for Hospitals to Inflate Coronavirus Deaths

United States hospitals have a “perverse” monetary “incentive” to increase their count of coronavirus fatalities, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)’s director Robert Redfield indicated under questioning from a Republican lawmaker during a House panel hearing on Friday.

Asked to comment on what Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer (R-MO) described as the “perverse incentive” during a hearing by the House Oversight and Reform Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis, Dr. Redfield responded:

I think you’re correct in that we’ve seen this in other disease processes too, really in the HIV epidemic, somebody may have a heart attack, but also have HIV — the hospital would prefer the [classification] for HIV because there’s greater reimbursement.

So I do think there’s some reality to that. When it comes to death reporting, though, ultimately, it’s how the physician defines it in the death certificate and … we review all of those death certificates.

So I think, probably it is less operable in the cause of death, although I won’t say there are not some cases. I do think though [that] when it comes to hospital reimbursement issues or individuals that get discharged, there could be some play in that for sure.

According to Congressman Luetkemeyer, Adm. Brett Giroir from the U.S. Health and Human Services (HHS) Department has conceded that there is an economic incentive for hospitals to inflate their coronavirus fatalities.

Giroir “acknowledged that the statistics he is getting from the states are over-inflated,” the Republican lawmakers said.

The admiral testified earlier during Friday’s hearing but was no longer present during Luetkemeyer’s questions about coronavirus deaths.

Across the United States, the seven-day average number of new infections had plateaued as of Thursday evening and even begun to come down in recent days. Meanwhile, new fatalities reported daily, and their seven-day average, continue to go up, but remain below peak levels.

There is a lag of about three weeks or more between infection and death.

As of mid-day Friday, COVID-19 (coronavirus disease) had infected nearly 4.5 million people and killed over 150,000, the Johns Hopkins University tracker revealed.

No where near what H1N1 was and there was no discussion at all about lock downs, mask's or anything else, its virulence was twice maybe three times as deadly !!

And now congress them selves has exempted them selves from wearing masks, either it is deadly and concerning or its not !!

We're gonna die Finster.

More and more people are figuring this out........

Local county just posted covid19 death number 11. Oh the horror. That's one a week since begining of april. Another county just posted a death this week, 93 yrs old. Powerful sneeze or scary movie might have caused that one too.

Not fast or loudly enough.

I completely agree

I heard talk of up to 13 thousand dollars of reimbursement per Covid death patient.

Why does a hospital get paid extra when anyone dies......for any reason?

Shouldn't it be the other way around? They get paid extra if they keep somebody alive and penalized if they die?

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:

So I can kill em for profit........?

Imagine the numbers that h1n1 would have had if the same incentives were in place back then.

HEY PAUL POOF THIS TOO

What is the worse case scenario on inaccurate corona associated deaths? Of the 150,000 and climbing what percent would you estimate are not corona associated deaths?

Seems like a simple solution. Remove the money ! Probably has something to do with that one Doctor .getting Fired for speaking out

I think the number would be so different most people would think it wasn't true

New York hospitals were making bank. Why did they quit? They are only doing 10 or so deaths a day now. That ain't going to pay the bills.

You could start digging fake graves and putting empty caskets inside, or maybe sell fake life insurance policies. Think I’ll have a fake beer.

Maybe some patients are dying several times to collect life insurance benefits.

Congress has exempted themselves? Seriously?

This whole thing is a propaganda campaign. They infection rate numbers at least in Wi being used by the governor are Plain and simple lies. They claim a 6.8 % infection rate but DHS is not taking the time to put negative results in the data base. Positive Retests for confirmation on the same individual are being entered in duplicate and triplicate to inflate the infection rate. The actual rate of infection is about 2.1 % positive result for those tested with symptoms.

The flu killed more people per month in wi in 2017 and 2018 than corona has killed people.

Yes, corona is real and will kill people but it’s all a hyped up scam to keep the economy down and inflect cultural imbalance with the bottom line to keep trump from getting re-elected

Who benefits by keeping the economy down, as you suggest?

Reports of a minimum 20% of the death rate counted was not from covid. That was various sources that were at least reporting it and not ignoring it. Here is an article that says 35%
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...ths-from-pandemic-not-caused-by-covid-19

After reviewing cdc data all afternoon-I will endorse this message!!!

No more people died these past 7 months than would have anyway!!!

Charles, are you kidding me😀. The Democratic Party benefits in November because Trump cannot taunt how the economy was booming with unemployment at record lows prior to covid

The Governor put the U.P. on lockdown again,citing this number and that number,etc.As of Friday,there were 2,that's right 2 people hospitalized in the whole U.P. for this.Here's where people have problems.If you.believe this is a honest to goodness pandemic you have to admit theres problems all over the place with the no.s they keep jacking us around with.And with their recommendations constantly changing.That's what's causing so many of us to be suspicious.

Skepticism is good. Denial , not so much. In the end there will be far more Covid associated deaths than the average flu deaths and this is with all the nonsense to prevent infection. Shutting down really is not an option, but the people you voted for went with it. No way they will stop now. Not too mention, most of the rest of the world is doing the same nonsense.

It boils down to Brawndo. "The Thirst Mutilator."

The infection rate is 100% when it is you. Was told this after a knee replacement by an orthopedic surgeon attending to me. I think it holds true for Covid infections and Covid deaths. Very real when it hits home.

Maybe President Trump thinks this is fake reality.

Trump needs a home run to survive. The drug he touted, the denial of an infection, and many far fetched solutions are made in hopes that just one victory can redeem him. That is not leadership. It is fantasy.

Having said that about Trump, I do not like Biden or the Democratic platform either. I just think the biggest fake news we have ever seen is a national leader named Trump. He is a shallow thinker. Not too bright. Ego maniac. Easily manipulated by foreign leaders. Might be our best choice. We are in a sad position.

I am writing in my ballot for Coonman. He can fix the Dept of Labor and the IRS. He will confuse Putin and North Korea and buy us four years.

Art, Facebook banned her yet?

Just posted today , still there for now .
Probably will soon .

How many died in 5 months of H1N1? I just don’t recall. I take the flu shot every year and it hasn’t inflicted me yet.

The COVID cheated the flu out of all of its deaths.
My wife gets the flu shot every year. Guess what? She got such a bad case of it in January that I had to just about carry her to the car to drive her to the Dr.
50:50 chance of the flu shot to protect her, they said.

That's because they literally have to guess what strain of the flu is going to hit in order to make enough vaccine in time. Covid is probably going to be the same way.

isnt the common cold a covid virus? no luck finding a cold vaccine in how many years?

Before Covid became all the rage I’ve seen the other strains of Corona virus really put a whop on people. I’ve seen at least two deaths directly related to it in people with underlying health conditions prior to the Covid scare. Why hadn’t you heard about the other strains of Corona virus prior to 2020? I’ll wait.

Yes Human metapneumovirus is usually what people would equate for a common cold. Also kills people in the right circumstances and we still don’t have anything close to a cure for it Danny.

Just imagine, if all of the news stations reported daily diagnosed cancer and/or heart disease cases along with the total "related" deaths. Well, I suppose, we would all be scared spitless of dying from one of those! As Charles would say, "Very real when it hits home".. But, nobody is putting the pizza, smokes, weed, or any number of other known killers down. Seems odd??

Neither one of those diseases is infectious,

BTW I'm not afraid of those or the corona. I am afraid I might give the corona to somebody that is high risk. I wouldn't feel to good about that. if they died.

Dirt, if I end up in a nursing home you can give it to me. Hopefully a long ways away but you never know.

My parents just returned from a month vacation to Washington, Idaho, and Montana. I would consider them very high risk just based on age alone. They decided sitting in the house waiting to catch covid and die just wasn’t working for them. Mom said if I get, then I get it. At least I’ll be doing what I want to do rather than being cooped up scared to death. My only concern for them now is being back home in this sauna. Temps in the 90’s and feels like 100-105! Told them to take it easy a few days to acclimate back to our wonderful weather here!

If your goal is to die, the corona odds are not that good. I'd eat a bullet. Good luck!