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guys get wounded deer with buckshot cause they try to shoot too far. I must admit I have not shot a deer with it but out to 30 yards with 00 I am confident my mossberg 500 with the modified choke screwed in would roll one right up. I have just been experimenting with muzzle loader balls and cream of wheat. i put them in a plastic shot cup one at a time. add cream of wheat as i go. factory shells would likely be tighter yet
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Re: Opinions on this buckshot?
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
#6949798 07/31/2009:25 PM07/31/2009:25 PM
In a home defense scenario (less than 7 yards) there will not be a significant difference between 00 buck and 4 buck. Both will be lethal at center mass and both will penetrate multiple walls on errant shots. Would not want to be on the receiving end of any shotshell let alone buckshot!
Chris
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Re: Opinions on this buckshot?
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
#6949801 07/31/2009:27 PM07/31/2009:27 PM
I have killed several deer with buckshot years ago when hunting with hounds. Killed one at 80 yds once...1 pellet hit in the rib cage. Too far to be ethical but it worked. Didnt try another that far. But always used used 3" in magnum 00....not these reduced recoil rounds.
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In a home defense scenario (less than 7 yards) there will not be a significant difference between 00 buck and 4 buck. Both will be lethal at center mass and both will penetrate multiple walls on errant shots. Would not want to be on the receiving end of any shotshell let alone buckshot!
Chris
Me either.
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Re: Opinions on this buckshot?
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
#6949813 07/31/2009:33 PM07/31/2009:33 PM
Buckshot is still commonly used down here in these deer hound woods. I pity the deer dog hunter that hasnt kept his buckshot supply up. Not readily available, especially magnum hunting loads.
Lookout other hunters for those zinging hp rifle rounds this season.......
It was the only thing allowed in the club's I came up in. Rifles were deemed to dangerous and slugs weren't trusted.
Re: Opinions on this buckshot?
[Re: warrior]
#6949848 07/31/2009:46 PM07/31/2009:46 PM
Buckshot is still commonly used down here in these deer hound woods. I pity the deer dog hunter that hasnt kept his buckshot supply up. Not readily available, especially magnum hunting loads.
Lookout other hunters for those zinging hp rifle rounds this season.......
It was the only thing allowed in the club's I came up in. Rifles were deemed to dangerous and slugs weren't trusted.
Down here too. Georgia law even made rifles illegal for deer dog hunting if hunting in a party of more than 4 people, but that law was repealed in the late 80s or early 90s.
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Re: Opinions on this buckshot?
[Re: coop74]
#6949867 07/31/2009:50 PM07/31/2009:50 PM
In a home defense scenario (less than 7 yards) there will not be a significant difference between 00 buck and 4 buck. Both will be lethal at center mass and both will penetrate multiple walls on errant shots. Would not want to be on the receiving end of any shotshell let alone buckshot!
Chris
as much as I dislike "bird shot" as an HD round , because I have shot raccoon with it and didn't get the desired effect I will admit that was more like 30 feet it does seem quite lethal to the bird hunters often waterfowl hunters who shoot themselves with it in the state. but they are getting shot by their dog typically at less than a boat distance less than 5 yards.
I also have a co-worker still walking around with bird shot in his gut , he got shot by a crazy room mate probably 30 years ago he got shot in the stomach and had to be on a feeding tube for months while things heeled back up after they patched him up.
here is some test video of a guy shooting meat targets with different bird shot the largest he went was a magnum #6 shot it did go through the target and the wall the target was on you might want to skip ahead to meat targets about 9:30 in to the video at 5 yards it is like a frangible slug.
If I was going to use bird shot #4 lead heavy game load would be my choice , it proved effective on the farm when a pack of wild dogs was in the hog pen it was my grandpas go to kills everything on the farm load he also always shot it from a full choke the only gun he owned.
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Re: Opinions on this buckshot?
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
#6949920 07/31/2010:08 PM07/31/2010:08 PM
Paul Harrell has a lot of great videos. He is one heck of a pistol shot too. Top notch info IMO!
Chris
he just released a video 10.5 inch barrel AR vs 20 inch barrel at 200 yards with soft point ammo and hollow point ammo.
55gr soft points were leaving the barrel at 2700 and some fps while the same 55gr soft point was leaving the 20 inch at 3200fps the 55gr soft point from the 10.5 was effective enough on the meat target at 200 yards that I expect it would do just fine at distances under 50 yards
a previous video of his he was shooting multiple targets with the 10.5 and 20 and he was much faster transitioning from target to target with the 10.5
if only a guy could find a 10.5 AR barrel right now.
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Re: Opinions on this buckshot?
[Re: Savell]
#6949992 07/31/2010:42 PM07/31/2010:42 PM
... got to see how patterns out of the the passenger side window of an 83 ford at 55
Grandpa said the #4 patterns great on fox from a 50 Plymouth at about 30 cruising through a frozen hay field from an Ithaca M37 with a full choke you just have to be careful not to shoot the antenna in 50 they moved it to the passenger side.
Grandpa is probably the reason we have that pesky law about not hunting with the aid of an air craft , the farmer down the road from his farm was a WWII pilot and had a small high wing with a big speaker mounted on the wing strut , he would call down were the fox was coming out.
my brother bought a 50 Plymouth when he gets it running we might have to double check I have the M37 probably have to go without the air craft.
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Re: Opinions on this buckshot?
[Re: Savell]
#6950018 07/31/2010:50 PM07/31/2010:50 PM