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Sizes are dumb #6952140
08/02/20 10:31 PM
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A victor 1.5 has a bigger jaw spread 4 7/8 than a bridger 1.75 4 3/4. And the bridger 1.75 should hold a yote so why can’t a victor 1.5

Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952143
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There is absolutely no standard when it comes to trap size numbers and actual jaw spread.


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Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952146
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Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952152
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That’s the outside jaw spread

Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952157
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If you think that's fun there's fifty states and a few territories that have trapping regs and none are standard either.
Even better some use non standard english to interpret them.


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Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952166
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My first act as president would be to normalize trap sizes

Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952174
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Though not the first choice of coyote trappers the Victor 1.5 coil has hung onto hundreds of coyotes for me down South since the 1980s. I did got a few traps distorted by mean coyotes but baseplates stopped that.


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Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952179
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To me it just shows how valuable our forum sponsors really are to a trapper b/c their websites clearly show outside and inside spread so we know what we are ordering and if it complies with the law if we are bone headed enough to live in a yankee state. whistle


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Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952180
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I know a Duke 1.5 will hold a wolf, so I would guess a victor 1.5 would hold a coyote.


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Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952185
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Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Leftlane] #6952231
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The design of a single long 1.5 trap is totally different than a 1.5 or 1.76 coil trap and thus holding capabilities are quite different. Also a single long 1.5 actually has the jaw spread of a # 2 double long spring. The .5 years ago many times referenced the number of springs as much if not more than the actual size or jaw spread. As stated above there is no real standard as to size so you will find variability in foot holds as well as body grippers.

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Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952301
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Back in the late 1970s or early 1980s - just as States were being to add restrictions about jaw spread - one state issued the ruling that any trap larger than a size 2 had to have offset jaws. No exact measurements, just “larger size a size 2”. Easy fix on #3 and #4 traps - take off the original pan and replace it with a #2 pan.

True story. It worked for a short while, until the state got smart and changed the law to reflect jaw spread size.


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Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Jurassic Park] #6952311
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
I know a Duke 1.5 will hold a wolf, so I would guess a victor 1.5 would hold a coyote.


Exactly
But I would baseplate the 1.5’s


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Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952448
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Originally Posted by GoneTrappin.
My first act as president would be to normalize trap sizes

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Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952470
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Originally Posted by GoneTrappin.
A victor 1.5 has a bigger jaw spread 4 7/8 than a bridger 1.75 4 3/4. And the bridger 1.75 should hold a yote so why can’t a victor 1.5

Because the Bridger is a much better built trap. One of my favorite all around traps. Also, the Victor is only that wide in the center, correct, because it's a round jaw. Which actually has more room inside the jaws?


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Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952475
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LOL a 1 1/2 was plenty of trap until the internet came along !!!!

Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952506
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I got my biggest yote (hanging on the wall) in a 1.5 duke

Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952531
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To be fair though, I don't think any serious coyote trapper is running 1.5 traps. It's not just about holding, it's about getting a deep hold on that big foot to start with. Just because I can hold a coyote in a coon trap doesn't make it a good choice for coyotes.


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Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952554
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I've caught many yotes in a 1.5 victor soft catch and was just starting out and didn't know any better. I wouldn't try it now unless I had no other choice.

Re: Sizes are dumb [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6952560
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PAskinner, true story I actually caught the one I mentioned in a coon set

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