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Fiochi been around a while but I'm not very familiar with it. 46 cents per round...it'll do. This was my July ammo purchase....lol
I just bought 150 rounds of this 00 buckshot....for "home defense." Across the room distance it should do OK. Its not for hunting.
SwampWolf, Fiochi warns against using this in semi autos as it may not cycle due to low recoil. It's manufactured in Ozark Missouri. The wad is built to hold the shot column together, meaning at your ranges there will be little spread, but the reality is beyond 20 feet these loads open up big time. Low muzzle flash is a talking point, but any flash in the dark is going to have you seeing sun spots or your wife. You get what you pay for in soft lead and in soft lead, nickel plated or not, body armor has been known to stop these loads. Winchester and Federal are what you stake your life on.
Fiochi been around a while but I'm not very familiar with it. 46 cents per round...it'll do. This was my July ammo purchase....lol
I just bought 150 rounds of this 00 buckshot....for "home defense." Across the room distance it should do OK. Its not for hunting.
SwampWolf, Fiochi warns against using this in semi autos as it may not cycle due to low recoil. It's manufactured in Ozark Missouri. The wad is built to hold the shot column together, meaning at your ranges there will be little spread, but the reality is beyond 20 feet these loads open up big time. Low muzzle flash is a talking point, but any flash in the dark is going to have you seeing sun spots or your wife. You get what you pay for in soft lead and in soft lead, nickel plated or not, body armor has been known to stop these loads. Winchester and Federal are what you stake your life on.
Pump guns here. One muzzle flash might do it for most intruders. I'll tell her to head shoot em...lol
Thanks for the great info on these Fiocchi rounds.
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Re: Opinions on this buckshot?
[Re: white17]
#6950106 07/31/2011:57 PM07/31/2011:57 PM
In my experience, the largest pattern from a cylinder or improved cylinder shotgun with '00' buckshot was about 1" per yard traveled. At 32 feet (longer range than most house engagements) it will cover a doorway nicely. Still gotta aim, but those 9 pellets, each of which is about .32 caliber and moving at about 850 mph, should make the intruder wish they had made better life choices.
Had to put down a large (150+ pounds) , rabid dog one time who was a real danger. At 7 yards, the pattern was basically covered by your hand.
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Re: Opinions on this buckshot?
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
#6950207 08/01/2006:59 AM08/01/2006:59 AM
I do better than that with just a 410. 4 balls at 35 yards with cream of wheat for filler. only 3 fit in the shot cups I had lying around. If I bought better shot cups I think it would eliminate that "flyer".
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Re: Opinions on this buckshot?
[Re: grisseldog]
#6950218 08/01/2007:19 AM08/01/2007:19 AM
I read in sports afield when I was a kid that Buckshot was good for wounding deer and killing your buddy So it should be great to shoot home invaders
buckshot will stop a deer with no problem anything inside 100yds with someone who can shot a shotgun accurately can stop deer we shoot approx 5-10 deer every year in a one week span shootimg just buckshot
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Re: Opinions on this buckshot?
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
#6950475 08/01/2012:20 PM08/01/2012:20 PM
the 500 I/C shoots them better the full choke puts them in about the size of a fist
I used the Rem I/c as the example of the worst pattern of anything I tried that gun rode around in a Squad car for 25 years and has had a lot of buck shot though it the barrel was a mess when I bought it from the PD.
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Re: Opinions on this buckshot?
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
#6954771 08/05/2008:07 AM08/05/2008:07 AM
you can see as you extend the distance on the buck shot forma cylinder or IC choke that the pattern starts to get big especially with the 9th pellet flyer and the suprema which is OK buckshot at 10 yards not so great at 15 or farhter form a I/C choke. this is the reason some municipalities have chosen to not carry buck in their shotguns and only slugs at 50 yards that pellet is still traveling and could be lethal but you have no idea where it is going just a general direction. yes slugs are single projectile and have big penetration they feel that the officer can make a better decision to fire one or not at least knowing they are responsible for just one projectile.
it also gets to the question are there better tools you can put in the tool box to that the answer is yes but everything that works well also has penetration issues
many departments have also decided to no longer keep shotguns in patrol cars instead use patrol rifles a fairly light fast bullet while it will travel a long range gives an even greater level of accuracy and if the right fragmenting type bullet is used it limits over penetration an ricochet one example is the Hornady Urban TAP ammo 223rem. some are doing both rifle and shotgun in the car.
buck from a shotgun remains a reasonable tool for home defense because most likely it will be used at short range under 10 yards and there will be walls to slow down any projectiles that miss the target limiting the threat that they exit your house and travel to an untended human target. in all self defense shooting Aim small most personal defense ammo has very little left exiting an intended target if it even exits missing is a double risk.
it does make you think why aren't 18-20 inch barrels coming with choke tubes , the logic is that you don't need it but I think a mod or full in a shotgun that cuts your pattern in half at 10-15 yards means it stays smaller longer and is less likely to cause issues with bistandards.
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Re: Opinions on this buckshot?
[Re: AnthonyT]
#6954840 08/05/2009:15 AM08/05/2009:15 AM
I just scratch my head when I hear people think 00 buck is good for defense. #3 or even #4 is better . More pellets . BUT in side a home neither is good if you will be shooting thru the house might kill your kids down the hall.....
A pickup wouldn't hold the grey foxes I killed in the 70's and early 80's with # 2 birdshot !!! Grey fox is one of the toughest little animals to put down !!! Got a question have ANY of you ever been inside a house when 12 gauge goes off? I shot out the back door once killing starlings off my blue bird box. Problem was I didn't have the barrel out the door as I was standing back in the kitchen so they couldn't see me. Took me a week to get the ringing to stop. PLUS my wife put an end to that !!!!