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Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Bruce T] #6955387
08/05/20 07:03 PM
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That will be nice fishing close to home.

Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Bruce T] #6955419
08/05/20 07:38 PM
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Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Wife] #6955430
08/05/20 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Wife
I am going to make the assumption that you will want some fish (ornamental or game type) to put in your new pond. I worked for USDA for 34 years,,, surveying, designing, drafting the construction plans, staking for the contractor, inspecting the construction, and finally doing a final survey to certify quantities for payment for farm ponds in 1-5 counties here. Kept this old guy busy during the spring, summer and fall construction months. I also was involved in connecting folks with reputable fish suppliers and writing beginning management plans (pretty simple). Consider holding off any stocking of desirable fish species for 1 year from the end of construction activities so your pond has a time to stabilize water levels and more important O2 and pH levels so any stocking has a chance to succeed. If your goal is game fish and you just can't wait, get some native minnows from the local watershed you are in (assume no invasive ones exit) and stock them as your bait fish for the later game fish stocking. Seen too many people get disappointed, happily waving Good Bye to the contractor one day and Hello to the commercial fish supplier the next only to experience a kill with a lot of white bellies the next day, week or month. Wasted $ and time and sometimes an argument about fish quality erupts when it is really a new pond stabilizing issue. Creek chubs, shiners, fatheads etc. are relatively inexpensive from a bait dealer or seined from the creek and will clue you as to the pond's condition for beginning fish life in you "New Pond"................................... my take................... the mike


I thought you would want to start the fathead minnows right away to help them get established and you can see how your pond is going to do.

Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Bob_Iowa] #6955635
08/05/20 10:12 PM
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YES! BAITFISH FIRST! I stocked my pond with fatheads channel and crappie first...wish I would went fatheads bass and bluegill.


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Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Bruce T] #6955818
08/06/20 12:48 AM
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Pretty cool Bruce! How big is your Elk pen going to be and how many elk do you want to have?


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Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Jurassic Park] #6955875
08/06/20 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Pretty cool Bruce! How big is your Elk pen going to be and how many elk do you want to have?

5 acres and a couple of elk.


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Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Bruce T] #6955881
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Looks good.


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Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Wife] #6955883
08/06/20 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Wife
I am going to make the assumption that you will want some fish (ornamental or game type) to put in your new pond. I worked for USDA for 34 years,,, surveying, designing, drafting the construction plans, staking for the contractor, inspecting the construction, and finally doing a final survey to certify quantities for payment for farm ponds in 1-5 counties here. Kept this old guy busy during the spring, summer and fall construction months. I also was involved in connecting folks with reputable fish suppliers and writing beginning management plans (pretty simple). Consider holding off any stocking of desirable fish species for 1 year from the end of construction activities so your pond has a time to stabilize water levels and more important O2 and pH levels so any stocking has a chance to succeed. If your goal is game fish and you just can't wait, get some native minnows from the local watershed you are in (assume no invasive ones exit) and stock them as your bait fish for the later game fish stocking. Seen too many people get disappointed, happily waving Good Bye to the contractor one day and Hello to the commercial fish supplier the next only to experience a kill with a lot of white bellies the next day, week or month. Wasted $ and time and sometimes an argument about fish quality erupts when it is really a new pond stabilizing issue. Creek chubs, shiners, fatheads etc. are relatively inexpensive from a bait dealer or seined from the creek and will clue you as to the pond's condition for beginning fish life in you "New Pond"................................... my take................... the mike

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Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Bruce T] #6955909
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Going to keep some shiners in it starting next year.


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Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Bruce T] #6955914
08/06/20 07:45 AM
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Shiners like lots of oxygen fro moving water

Is seriously think about fatheads


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Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Bruce T] #6956027
08/06/20 10:22 AM
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I tried several years to stock my pond with chubs but the water is too acidic. The bullheads love it and are thriving. At least I have unlimited bait for $2 mink and coon.


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Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Bruce T] #6956066
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Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Bruce T] #6956310
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If your pond is an embankment across a stream bed then you may be able to introduce your fish as it fills. There are lots of ways, theories, procedures and instructions on stocking fish to keep a pond on a producing curve and not get a stunted population of fish. I wrote plans for that while working with folks and I think they were pretty much satisfied what they received. With anything involving Ma Nature,,,, be it a pasture, irrigated corn field, honey bee yard, live market coyote pens, Christmas tree plantings, fish ponds, etc., etc., etc., ...... it takes work at the right time to mesh the growth into a successful and (hopefully) positive monetary outcome (make some money). Now lots of folks don't care if they make a dollar while in their "sand box" which is fine, but that still doesn't mean they can't get more enjoyment out of doing and being at the right place and time their "investment" needs some help. First things first is to let your new construction "settle and equal out" so all the (disruptive) environmental factors can stabilize.Then maybe introduce an element or two to see if you can get some production................. been my experience -- "slow and steady wins the race"................................... the mike.... P.S. we want pictures at the end of construction, after the first frost, mid-winter and ice out (maybe with a 5 X 5 getting a drink this fall LOL) ..... the mike again

Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Bruce T] #6956363
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
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No offence but that is a hole. A pond would not have side slopes over 3 to 1. If it is for wildlife to drink out of it should have an entrance area slope of 10 to 1.

Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Diggerman] #6956375
08/06/20 05:33 PM
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No offence but that is a hole. A pond would not have side slopes over 3 to 1. If it is for wildlife to drink out of it should have an entrance area slope of 10 to 1.

Lol.....I really don't think the deer and Turkey really care what slope there is. laugh


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Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Bruce T] #6956388
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Side slopes over a 3to 1 will eventually erode to a 3to 1, its just what water does. Its not hard to dig them that way. Also deer and turkey will drink off any slope if they have to, but they much prefer a slope of 10 to 1 or less.
But, if your happy, I'm happy for ya.

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Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Bruce T] #6956910
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looks good bruce , cant wait to see it full smile

Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Bruce T] #6956982
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You said that was wet spot in your yard... Make sure you didn't just make your sewer drain field into a holding pond lol. Iv got a spot like that on some land I'm buying and I can't wait to see how yours turns out

Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Bruce T] #6957009
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I'm working on the same thing Bruce. So far we have hauled out over 1500yds of top soil just to get to the clay.

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Re: They are getting ready to dig my pond [Re: Bruce T] #6957030
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I built a crawdad pond with a mini hoe like that a few months ago. How deep is that one going to be?

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