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Re: Should Wayne LaPierre’s reign be over in the NRA? [Re: Steeltrap] #6957313
08/07/20 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Steeltrap
Life member of the NRA and GOA and a several different state organizations . When NRA folded on bumpstocks (I don't own on, wouldn't buy one, probably wouldn't take a free one, but I support anyones right to own one) I threw in all with GOA. I am sick of common sense gun laws and those who support them. The way things are I need to protect myself and family from both the cops (the supposed good guys) and the mob.

The amount of money wasted by NRA is a problem. Would love to know what ol' Wayne is paid? I think that donations etc. ought to be used to fight the antis and the leadership positions ought to be non-paid...

Soon as you start throwing out big salaries, you attract the wrong type, (ie the swamp)

So as for now I throw what I can, when I can exclusively behind GOA.


As an unpaid local leader in "special interest" groups I can tell you that you get exactly what you pay for. You pay nothing your going to get nothing.

Now that said there is a place for personal ethics in leadership and any organization with such a leader will be blessed until the temptations of power erode the ethics. For that reason leadership should be regularly rotated or kept answerable and only the membership can make that happen.
I see this situation not so much a failure of Wayne as he's just human and was allowed access to the cookie jar for to long. It was the members failure to guard the cookie jar.

Re: Should Wayne LaPierre’s reign be over in the NRA? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6957320
08/07/20 05:42 PM
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care to specify how members were to "guard the cookie jar"

Re: Should Wayne LaPierre’s reign be over in the NRA? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6957331
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The tax filings for both are easy to find, and have salaries listed. Percent of your dollar going for salaries is going to surprise some people here by the looks of it.

Re: Should Wayne LaPierre’s reign be over in the NRA? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6957335
08/07/20 05:56 PM
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I don't have a clue to how the NRA's bylaws are written. I would suspect most of their members don't either, hence the problem.

If you're a member there a set of rules called bylaws that'll tell you how to do it.

Re: Should Wayne LaPierre’s reign be over in the NRA? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6957475
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I give ‘em my money back in 1980. I enjoy the monthly magazine, especially, “The Armed Citizen “.

Re: Should Wayne LaPierre’s reign be over in the NRA? [Re: hippie] #6957494
08/07/20 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hippie
Percent of your dollar going for salaries is going to surprise some people here by the looks of it.


Could you be a little more specific ?

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Re: Should Wayne LaPierre’s reign be over in the NRA? [Re: walleyed] #6957664
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by hippie
Percent of your dollar going for salaries is going to surprise some people here by the looks of it.


Could you be a little more specific ?

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Sure,
There's been several comments on the two NRA threads about the money going to the pockets of the leaders.

If they look up the info I mentioned, I don't think they'll use that as an argument again.

Getting me to bash one to make the other look good? Nope, I'll just point towards the facts and they can make the call.

Re: Should Wayne LaPierre’s reign be over in the NRA? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6957668
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I wish I could get someone like that to clean my pool, that darn thing is nasty! The pool I mean.

Re: Should Wayne LaPierre’s reign be over in the NRA? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6958104
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Re: Should Wayne LaPierre’s reign be over in the NRA? [Re: white17] #6958109
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That article is spot on White.

The lawsuit is not to fight fraud or there would be charged brought against at least one of the 4 she claims committed it.
Nope, went straight to complete elimination of the entire organization.

She in fact should be charged for corruption of her office.

Re: Should Wayne LaPierre’s reign be over in the NRA? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6958110
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Put it this way....
If her claims that the four she mentioned embezzled money, charge them.

This is like closing a religious group (pick one) down because a couple priests hand their hand in the cookie jar.

Re: Should Wayne LaPierre’s reign be over in the NRA? [Re: hippie] #6958145
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the case may well be a loser but from those that want to taint an organization, charging the organization keeps their name in the not so goo lights and not two or three individuals who did corrupt acts. What the goals or the aims is more important many times than who gets gored, especially when dealing with a very large and well known organization.
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