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Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Gary Benson] #6957787
08/08/20 01:28 AM
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Locally, most grocery, hardware and general stores as well as bars and restaurants have been unable to hire people they vitally need. When people are paid half their regular pay, plus $600.00 to stay home, so most make considerably more than they do working, few if any will go back to work before they absolutely have to.

Keith

Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Gary Benson] #6957790
08/08/20 02:20 AM
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If their jobs are offered back to them and they refuse re- employment,they will lose their unemployment benefits.
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Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Bogmaster] #6957792
08/08/20 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Bogmaster
If their jobs are offered back to them and they refuse re- employment,they will lose their unemployment benefits.
Tom


True, but the unemployed are not taking the multitude of other jobs that are available. A huge number of companies are hiring due to Covid-19, including cleaning services, grocery stores, hardware stores, companies that ship packages and security companies and they can't find the people they desperately need because people are being paid more to stay home, than the businesses can afford to pay.

Keith

Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Scuba1] #6957798
08/08/20 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
A 1200 dollar check will feed a rioter for how long ??


When you add in $800+ a week unemployment payment it will feed them for quite a while.


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Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Gary Benson] #6957801
08/08/20 04:04 AM
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It’s driving me crazy that I can’t get “cleared” to return to working.


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Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6957877
08/08/20 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Good. It's welfare. So are unemployment checks.


Unemployment isn't welfare. It's insurance that we all pay for. Unlike welfare, unenjoyment only lasts so long. It's for people that had jobs, not bums that didn't


The "insurance" is funded by payroll taxes paid by employers. I expect it will have to be supplemented with additional funds because of the large number of claims. So, more taxes paid by me (I kept working and haven't laid off any employees) and others who kept working or found another job.

Welfare.

Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Gary Benson] #6957880
08/08/20 08:09 AM
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Based on all the "Help Wanted" signs around here and all the ads on the radio of companies looking for workers, I'd have to say unemployment isn't the problem crazy


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Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Gary Benson] #6957928
08/08/20 09:04 AM
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I wonder if a person can claim safety issues from the virus for not coming back to work and keeping the benefits.

Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: AntiGov] #6957935
08/08/20 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
[quote=Blaine County]Good. It's welfare. So are unemployment checks.


Unemployment isn't welfare. It's insurance that we all pay for. Unlike welfare, unenjoyment only lasts so long. It's for people that had jobs, not bums that didn't


Originally Posted by AntiGov
Actually employers pay the UI , not employees


Pennsylvania (my state) is one of three states where both employers and employees pay Unemployment Insurance taxes.

Like most self-employed business owners, I get to pay into the system but am not eligible to collect from it. From my prospective that makes it welfare. For employees paying in to the system I would say they earned the right to collect.

My opinion only applies to standard UI rates. The additional $600.00 is straight up welfare.


Eh...wot?

Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Rat Masterson] #6957942
08/08/20 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
I wonder if a person can claim safety issues from the virus for not coming back to work and keeping the benefits.

Yes they can, they can claim they or someone they live with feels sick and keep collecting.

Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Rat Masterson] #6957951
08/08/20 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
I wonder if a person can claim safety issues from the virus for not coming back to work and keeping the benefits.


Happened here at the Quarry i retired from 1/3 of the workforce either stayed or went on layoff this April citing safety reasons This is the most crucial and labor intensive part of the shipping season But i imagine the company filed for lost revenue

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Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: jabNE] #6957964
08/08/20 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jabNE
Good riddance to something else we'd have to pay for later

It will happen,sooner or later.It's an election year,the two parties couldn't agree on how much,as usual the democrats went way overboard with their demands.Whether it's an executive order or they come back and iron it out,whether we like it or not another stimulus is coming.


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Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Gary Benson] #6957981
08/08/20 09:49 AM
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good, i didnt think the 1st one shoulda passed.

Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Gary Benson] #6957994
08/08/20 10:02 AM
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It's the first time in human history that a pandemic and its subsequent economic crisis has been fueled by a political party and its fatal agenda. They will continue to do everything in their power to extend the misery into November. They never had any intention of passing a 2nd stimulus.


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Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: mainer] #6957996
08/08/20 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mainer
It's the first time in human history that a pandemic and its subsequent economic crisis has been fueled by a political party and its fatal agenda. They will continue to do everything in their power to extend the misery into November. They never had any intention of passing a 2nd stimulus.


Well, aren't you a Negative Nancy! grin

But you are correct, they need to promote crisis to seem important.

Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Gary Benson] #6958045
08/08/20 11:04 AM
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So no $1200 stimlous or possibly later after recess ? I hope so, could use extra cash. For savings. Stock up, for all antis against it an all negative comments I well get for posting this, all I can say, is u got probly 500 k in bank an against. Anyone that poorer of get stimlous. An u got money to throw out ground an burn, idk go ahead an cut me down with ur negative posts against me now

Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Gary Benson] #6958047
08/08/20 11:07 AM
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Welcome back Coonman. I'm sure there will eventually be something passed, but all the give-aways are why our country is in the shape it's in.
I read that Pelosi's demand for mail-in voting was one reason for the hold-up.

Last edited by Gary Benson; 08/08/20 11:08 AM.

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Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Gary Benson] #6958049
08/08/20 11:10 AM
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coonman you were on my list along with Beav to possibly give my next free printed money to. However, IMO you are one of those people who have a spending problem, not a revenue problem, so giving you money will never solve your problem. frown


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Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Gary Benson] #6958063
08/08/20 11:28 AM
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It sounds iffy of get a stimlous. Check, a chance it , but if trump does something soon to extend ui or prevent evictions. The u tube vid I watch say. That no more $1200 stimlous, also say that likely the Dems an republics are done talk about deal for good. A $1200 stimlous would help everyone, buy a expensive exhaust manifold an ask questions. About it an other stuff on vechile a spend problem, it a expensive nesscaity, I don't see how ppl can afford live. If not for 1st stimlous. An ui for while, I be totaly broke an doubt be posting anything now. Probly no phone. As much as things cost nowadays. An how lil cheap wages are for kind work do with amount taxes took out check

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Re: 2nd stimulus didn't happen [Re: Gary Benson] #6958066
08/08/20 11:35 AM
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coonman you have smart phone? I don't, but I'm not broke waiting for free money either.


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