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AR pistol upper #6957289
08/07/20 05:10 PM
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found a not half bad price on a 10.5 inch pistol upper today 360 dollars

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...lightweight-m-lok-upper-with-bcg-ch.html

been watching parts and I just could not build it for that price currently. 6 months ago I probably could have but it isn't 6 months ago and I don't expect it to get any better I was surprised to even find these parts in stock.

I had been wondering how slow the bullet coming out of the 10.5 was and got my answer here


and how effective soft point ammunition would still be at that speed and found that answer here.


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Re: AR pistol upper [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6957325
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Whatever you do, DO NOT put that upper on a lower who's first extension tube was anything other than a pistol brace or currently has a stock on it.

The rule is pistol first can later be a rifle or pistol as long as stock and short barrel don't share the same lower. Rifle first always a rifle.

Disregard if you choose to go the SBR route.


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Re: AR pistol upper [Re: warrior] #6957329
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Originally Posted by warrior
Whatever you do, DO NOT put that upper on a lower who's first extension tube was anything other than a pistol brace or currently has a stock on it.

The rule is pistol first can later be a rifle or pistol as long as stock and short barrel don't share the same lower. Rifle first always a rifle.

Disregard if you choose to go the SBR route.



we are good not my first pistol AR build.

every build I do is from "Other" , always screw the pistol buffer tube on first which your going to think is Ironic the pistol buffer tube and the 6 position buffer tube are now one in the same.


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Re: AR pistol upper [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6957337
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Check Red X Arms. Just finished a 10.5" pistol and used one of their uppers. Didn't have a BCG but it was $225 with free shipping

Re: AR pistol upper [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6957339
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Yep, it's pretty laughable the interpretations and the don't let it touch your shoulder or cheek, oops, never mind that letters. Just prima facie evidence of the stupidity of the NFA.

Sorry to assume this was your first evil gun. But the good news is there's alot more brand new evil gun owners this year for odd reason. smile


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Originally Posted by headache73
Check Red X Arms. Just finished a 10.5" pistol and used one of their uppers. Didn't have a BCG but it was $225 with free shipping


the free shipping would have been nice but with the 110-120 dollar BCG and 20ish more for a charging handle it is about even

225 upper+115 bcg+20ch=360 so I paid or shipping I also was buying some PSA only products so I would have paid some shipping any way


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Re: AR pistol upper [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6957348
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
Originally Posted by headache73
Check Red X Arms. Just finished a 10.5" pistol and used one of their uppers. Didn't have a BCG but it was $225 with free shipping


the free shipping would have been nice but with the 110-120 dollar BCG and 20ish more for a charging handle it is about even

225 upper+115 bcg+20ch=360 so I paid or shipping I also was buying some PSA only products so I would have paid some shipping any way

You're right, I got the BCG on sale at palmetto and a charging handle at optics planet

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and it is OUT OF STOCK in less than 24 hours

no time to sit around and him and haw about what you put in the cart , pay for it before it is out of stock.

if your looking for something and you see it , hit buy and get it paid before everyone else does.


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Re: AR pistol upper [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6958126
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Speaking of out of stock i recently watched on midway 9mm bullets for defense loads go in stock, me buying a box and all of them out of stock 10 min later. Lots of people sitting around with stuff in wishlists just waiting to catch it in stock.


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Re: AR pistol upper [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6958192
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small pistol primers , the store owner said got some in yesterday , ope , all out already since they have limited hours that means in about 2 hours they were all gone.

I have been watching 9mm bullets also , it is just crazy-ness


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Re: AR pistol upper [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6958277
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
found a not half bad price on a 10.5 inch pistol upper today 360 dollars

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...lightweight-m-lok-upper-with-bcg-ch.html

been watching parts and I just could not build it for that price currently. 6 months ago I probably could have but it isn't 6 months ago and I don't expect it to get any better I was surprised to even find these parts in stock.

I had been wondering how slow the bullet coming out of the 10.5 was and got my answer here


and how effective soft point ammunition would still be at that speed and found that answer here.




That looks like a shot gun pattern instead of a "shot group" LOL shooter or gun one or both needs to try something else !!!!!!!! Cross stitch maybe .........

Re: AR pistol upper [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6958288
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are you referring to the offhand group at 50 yards no sling with irons? not many people do much better than that standing off hand at 50 that group at 25 would get you a Army qualification of expert standing

at the 10 minute and 50 second point in the video you can see the 100 yard from a bench he is shooting irons on both guns and ball ammo that is generally 1.25 to 1.5 inches at best from even a scoped rifle.

the 10.5 is around a 3.5 inch group while the 20 inch is is about 2.5

you have 1.5moa ammo and a 1-1.5moa shooter with irons that really isn't bad

the take away should be how much faster the 10.5 was in target transition than the 20. if you start at 8:11 in the video he runs 20 then 10 rapid fire on 4 targets same short sight radius the transition is just faster with less inertial from the weight of the barrel to stop moving.

3 inches @100 yards has long been considered the norm for deer hunting until very recently. not many 30-30 going to do much better with Irons and factory ammo at 100 yards.


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