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Re: Trump's executive order [Re: bowhunter27295] #6958581
08/08/20 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Originally Posted by James
Since taxes are set by Congress, how can Trump terminate them?

This is an election ploy.

Jim


Can you explain the Affordable Health Care act to us again, counselor?

Someone always gotta throw a wrench in the works......... laugh

Last edited by Gary Benson; 08/08/20 10:30 PM.

Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Trump's executive order [Re: bowhunter27295] #6958588
08/08/20 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Higher wage earners won’t see a benefit from a payroll tax holiday.


Most voters are not in that bracket. D and R.

Seeing a leader who doesn't deal with the politics and actually does something is refreshing and reelectable.

Oh, but Biden has a 13 point lead! And there's ocean beaches in Nebraska.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Trump's executive order [Re: yotetrapper30] #6958590
08/08/20 10:34 PM
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The best thing Democrats can do for Trump is to just let Biden loose and let him talk. He is Trumps greatest asset.


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Re: Trump's executive order [Re: yotetrapper30] #6958592
08/08/20 10:35 PM
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What if Obama would've done this????

Re: Trump's executive order [Re: yotetrapper30] #6958593
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I havnt seen the self employed mentioned anywhere yet . I wish they would give everybody a withholdings holiday including the employers share of Ss so everybody could feel the difference income tax and Ss takes

Re: Trump's executive order [Re: bowhunter27295] #6958608
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
I notice James has disappeared.

POOF!!!!!

He's trying to erase Obama's history now.


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Re: Trump's executive order [Re: bowhunter27295] #6958609
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
I do not understand why the democrats and the media continue to purposely make complete fools out of themselves. I sincerely don't comprehend this.

Well.......they've tried everything else........Kings have historically had a jester around for entertainment.

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Re: Trump's executive order [Re: James] #6958615
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Originally Posted by James
Since taxes are set by Congress, how can Trump terminate them?

This is an election ploy.

Jim


As I read this he would not be terminating them at this time , He would be directing the allowed deferment without penalty.

you can differ income over 3 years say you move your 401K to a Roth IRA you can divide it by 3 and spread the taxes out over 3 years.

this would be similar to that but for the employer portion.

it might allow an employer to bring 4 people back when they would have only been able to bring back 3 otherwise.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Trump's executive order [Re: yotetrapper30] #6958621
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Trumps got the Dems boxed in, if they fight this he can show they don't care about you, if they don't he wins and if they do he wins. That being said if a person got laid off and with the extra 600 a week how can people not pay their rent. Doesn't make sense.

Re: Trump's executive order [Re: James] #6958623
08/08/20 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by James
Why do people making $99,999 per year need help?

It's the people who've lost their jobs that need help.

Jim


My job has been banned. I still don't need help. But cutting my forced Social Security Contribution that figures in my Social Security Payout when I retire really does nothing for me. Banning my job pretty much means I will not be paying that tax anyway.

Pretty much one of the stupidest tax cuts I have ever seen( that he really does not have the power to do). IMHO.

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Re: Trump's executive order [Re: yotetrapper30] #6958624
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it a god thing that we have trump in there lets pray he wins , if not your 401k will be going down down and down , open boarders and higher taxes , now who in there right mind wants this ?


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Re: Trump's executive order [Re: James] #6958628
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Originally Posted by James
Since taxes are set by Congress, how can Trump terminate them?

This is an election ploy.

Jim


Short answer: He can't by EO.

However he could order an air strike on the IRS and the Federal Reserve and I'd be just fine with that. And before you rebuke me by saying he can't use military power against American citizens... We're talking about the IRS... Kind of like communists, not really sure they even qualify as human.

Mike


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Re: Trump's executive order [Re: yotetrapper30] #6958631
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when do these royal decrees stop? maybe the next one will make him supreme leader for life and eliminate the senate, congress and supremes


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Trump's executive order [Re: danny clifton] #6958644
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
when do these royal decrees stop? maybe the next one will make him supreme leader for life and eliminate the senate, congress and supremes


Every president in recent times keeps pushing the line on these royal decrees farther and farther.

Jim


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Re: Trump's executive order [Re: yotetrapper30] #6958681
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It's the only way they can do anything. Sure won't be through the house or senate.

Re: Trump's executive order [Re: James] #6958696
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Originally Posted by James
Since taxes are set by Congress, how can Trump terminate them?

This is an election ploy.

Jim


Very well could be an election ploy but nothing in history will ever compare to the Obama phone ploy!

Re: Trump's executive order [Re: Pike River] #6958716
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Originally Posted by Pike River
What if Obama would've done this????


“We’re driving the bus now, sit down and shut up.” lol


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Re: Trump's executive order [Re: Mike in A-town] #6958718
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Originally Posted by James
Since taxes are set by Congress, how can Trump terminate them?

This is an election ploy.

Jim


Short answer: He can't by EO.

However he could order an air strike on the IRS and the Federal Reserve and I'd be just fine with that. And before you rebuke me by saying he can't use military power against American citizens... We're talking about the IRS... Kind of like communists, not really sure they even qualify as human.

Mike


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Re: Trump's executive order [Re: yotetrapper30] #6958725
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It is a very bad thing when your government just assumes more authority than is constitutionally allowed. Three equal branch's is a good thing. Only the stuff that is really important can get done. Liberty is protected.

Lincolns Emancipation Proclamation may have been the right thing to do but it wasn't legal. It is why a constitutional amendment actually freed the slaves three years later.

I can't find anything that gives the President or a state Governor, the authority to simply declare a law or change a law.

This executive order thing is scary and when used to modify or make a new law is absolutely unconstitutional.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Trump's executive order [Re: yotetrapper30] #6958735
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In Draw Poker, the wild card would be the lowest card in a player's hand. When such a card is designated, it means that every card of that rank in that player's hand is wild, but the fact that a certain card is wild in one player's hand does not make that same rank of card wild in other players' hands.
I guess things change or stays the same when the shuffle comes.

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