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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: corky] #6958782
08/09/20 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by corky
Curious why the question is even asked?

Perhaps a fishing trip.


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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: James] #6958785
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Japan should thank us for a timely end to the war-Stalin was already ramping up HIS invasion. Look at North Korea today. Japan could be speaking Russian........................


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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: walleyed] #6958790
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by corky
Curious why the question is even asked?


A Turd Stirrer was looking for sympathy.

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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: James] #6958791
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The 2 A bombs the US dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved lives of Americas. War has consequences. Ive read the US still uses the Purple Hearts medals for the mainland Japanese invasion up until recently.


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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: James] #6958792
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It is important to learn from the past. But our generation should not apologize for something that a previous one has done. IMHO it would be false as you can not apologize for something you did not do. i was born in Germany and we were constantly reminded and made to fee guilty about the holocaust. I had nothing to do with it so can not feel guilty about it. Same goes with slave reparations and a whole host of other things. Instead of trying to erase history, we should take it as a valuable lesson and try to not make the same mistakes twice. Apart from that, as said before. Those two bombs saved more lives than they took.


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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: corky] #6958793
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Originally Posted by corky
Curious why the question is even asked?

I assume because it's the 75th anniversary of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, August 6 and 9, 1945 respectively. But for liberals everyday is a day for the United States to apologize for its existence - Make America Guilty Again.


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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: James] #6958795
08/09/20 08:30 AM
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We should send them a few nukes now. Short range of course. With them they could straighten out some bad actors just by having them there. LLL


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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: James] #6958801
08/09/20 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by James
Nah, I'd make a terrible community organizer. Cant even get anyone to like me here.

Jim




Hey stop that I like you enough to drive you to a mental health facility just not well enough to drive you to the polls on election day! grin


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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: James] #6958804
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: James] #6958835
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: James] #6958841
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Amen to that. The question should never even be asked.

Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: James] #6958845
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: James] #6958858
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Maybe Japan should apologize for attacking Pearl Harbor. Maybe we should apologize to the Japanese that lived in the U.S.A and had business and we put them in camps until after the war. JMO


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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: James] #6958862
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Originally Posted by James
Nah, I'd make a terrible community organizer. Cant even get anyone to like me here.

Jim

LOL i like you even if we disagree.... you would get them to your side if you was a conservative... but im not sure what party that is or if there is one !!


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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: James] #6958867
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Any of us old enough to have had a parent or relative in WWII knows the answer is no. And as we now know, an additional benefit of dropping a couple A-bombs is the world now knows the futility of war on a large scale. Start something now that involves those levels of weapons and the world comes to and end. Sadly, there remain some whackadoodles in the world who don't care.......so the threat of a rogue weapon going off is real.

But as for back then, I never understood the necessity of doing all those invasions. Islands or mainland Japan. Over time, we had sunk most of their ships and planes. The soldiers on the islands would have been stranded there without supplies. Basically prisoners. And over time, same with the "mainland" of Japan, which last time I checked is, also an island. By then, we had enough ships, planes and subs in the area, we could have effectively blockaded the island, which has limited natural resources on it's own. No oil, no raw minerals. Give it a year or so and they would have been forced to give up without the need for us to wade into them. But if a few million starved to death over it when their leaders wouldn't give up, we would probably be getting blamed for that too?

BTW, I have been to Japan to attend my son's wedding. He still lives there. Culture there is still very different from ours. Aspects of it both very good, and some is just plain silly. Question authority? Not in Japan.

Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: James] #6958868
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Yes. Of course only white U.S. citizens should be required to apologize.

Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: James] #6958888
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What Walleyed said. This is a sick world we live in too have people think that we should apologize for ending a war that cost so many American lives. And the brave men of America who fault these brutal sick savages that tortured our captured and time again gave no quarter.The Japanese started this war with a country that had done no ill will! Let it be a reminder that America will protect her own and there is a price for fronting her. America is still raising brave young strong men that are still willing to go in harms way and the world needs to know that. Still we wish peace.


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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: James] #6958892
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I think it's an honest question.

The answer of course is no, but that doesn't negate the fact that there is a huge push in this country lately to apologize to all of the countries whose butts we kicked in wars.


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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: James] #6958896
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The Empire of Japan in an unprovoked attack of the US resulted in the bombs being dropped on Japan . NO we have nothing to apologise for. This is history true history until they quit teaching American history in school and tearing down statues .

Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima? [Re: EdP] #6958911
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Originally Posted by EdP
Absolutely not. IMO dropping the bombs saved the Japanese people from annihilation. The Japanese populous was completely indoctrinated in the idea that it was their sacred duty to the emperor to die defending the empire, to the extent that old men, women, and children would have fought our troops with sticks and stones if that was all they had. In other words, every Japanese civilian capable of standing would have become a war fighter if we had invaded the mainland and our troops would have had to kill them just as we had to kill virtually every member of the Japanese military on the island campaign. If that had occurred the Japanese people would have been virtually annihilated. Dropping the bombs effected a cultural "reset" and allowed the war to be brought to an end. Note that at the time the Japanese still had a million man army in northern China fighting the Russians.


Russia declared war on Japan on Aug. 8'45. The next day they attacked. The war was effectively over at the time of course but Russia was after long disputed Japanese territory some of which was allocated to them once the post war paper work was sorted out.

It is often said the Americans beat the Japanese in WWII. More the truth the Americans were the deciding factor. The Chinese were fighting a Japanese invasion since the 30's and the British Empire and others e.g. Netherlands fought a long slogging war with the Japanese in SE Asia throughout e.g. Burma, Malaysia, New Guinea etc. As Germany collapsed in 1945 the British Empire progressivly directed more forces to SE Asia and Pacific operations against the Japanese.

The last Victoria Cross, the British Empire's highest award for valour (equivalent of American Medal of Honour), was awarded to a Canadian fighter pilot KIA August 9 1945. He was shot down over Japanese near coastal waters in an action against Japanese naval forces. He was based off the British aircraft carrier HMS Formidable which re-joined Pacific operations in April 1945. She was engaged in the Indian Ocean, Mediterranean, and Norweigian operations earlier in the war also.

Answer to James' question: no

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