Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
[Re: James]
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08/09/20 11:07 AM
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I think internee's of the U.S. camps were paid reparations of 20,000 dollars back in the 80's. I see no reason to apologize to them twice. I also think that out of the thousands of internee's it is likely there were a half dozen loyalists to the Emperor of Japan. That internment likely prevented the sabotage of a rail station or power plant or three.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
[Re: James]
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08/09/20 11:09 AM
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no!!,,,,,,most don't know it......there were experimental jet aircraft that the japs had,,,,,which was far superior to the mustangs or corsairs we had at the time. they were undoubtly shared secrets from the Nazis...and from my understanding,,,,,,,japan was was close to producing by the hundreds.........couple that , with an invasion on the japenese mainlaind......things could have possibly been disastrous for the united states........even far worse , was the Nazis were working on a nuke bomb as well..................I don't doubt the japs got some info on that as well. we had to act...and act swiftly!! thank god we had men with backbones on every level during that time.........
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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Absolutely not. IMO dropping the bombs saved the Japanese people from annihilation. The Japanese populous was completely indoctrinated in the idea that it was their sacred duty to the emperor to die defending the empire, to the extent that old men, women, and children would have fought our troops with sticks and stones if that was all they had. In other words, every Japanese civilian capable of standing would have become a war fighter if we had invaded the mainland and our troops would have had to kill them just as we had to kill virtually every member of the Japanese military on the island campaign. If that had occurred the Japanese people would have been virtually annihilated. Dropping the bombs effected a cultural "reset" and allowed the war to be brought to an end. Note that at the time the Japanese still had a million man army in northern China fighting the Russians. Russia declared war on Japan on Aug. 8'45. The next day they attacked. The war was effectively over at the time of course but Russia was after long disputed Japanese territory some of which was allocated to them once the post war paper work was sorted out. It is often said the Americans beat the Japanese in WWII. More the truth the Americans were the deciding factor. The Chinese were fighting a Japanese invasion since the 30's and the British Empire and others e.g. Netherlands fought a long slogging war with the Japanese in SE Asia throughout e.g. Burma, Malaysia, New Guinea etc. As Germany collapsed in 1945 the British Empire progressivly directed more forces to SE Asia and Pacific operations against the Japanese. The last Victoria Cross, the Empire's highest award for bravery, was awarded to a Canadian fighter pilot KIA August 9 1945. He was shot down in Japanese near coastal waters in an action against Japanese naval forces. Another Canadian downplaying an American war victory.....Shocker!
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
[Re: James]
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08/09/20 11:29 AM
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Nah, I'd make a terrible community organizer. Cant even get anyone to like me here.
Jim You say some interesting things, so I like you.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
[Re: James]
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08/09/20 12:09 PM
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The question is out there......really just out there beyond normal thinking. Typical liberal mental deficit thinking. My uncle died on the bataan death march.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
[Re: James]
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08/09/20 12:14 PM
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
[Re: James]
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08/09/20 12:40 PM
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No
It has also served as a forever message to others to .....heed warning
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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08/09/20 01:59 PM
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Nope.
Who drew first blood? American pilots flying American planes were shooting down Japanese planes over China before Japan hit Pearl Harbor. It was a tit for tat situation before Pearl Harbor. None of that really matters though, once you are in a war you fight it to win and that is what the U.S did with the bombs.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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Nope.
Who drew first blood? American pilots flying American planes were shooting down Japanese planes over China before Japan hit Pearl Harbor. It was a tit for tat situation before Pearl Harbor. None of that really matters though, once you are in a war you fight it to win and that is what the U.S did with the bombs. Which started with Japan invading Manchuria I believe?
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