Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
[Re: James]
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08/09/20 02:39 PM
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The stories are interesting. I do like hearing them.
My own father was just reaching draft age at the time of Japan's surrender. He'd have surely been sent to the Pacific Theatre. He was all ready to go. Good chance I wouldn't have been born.
I'm also glad the Emperor forced the military to accept unconditional surrender terms. I think Osaka was the next target for a bomb, and that's where my wife was born.
My wife's feelings about that war and how it ended are more complicated than mine. She'll rarely talk about the subject.
Jim
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
[Re: James]
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08/09/20 02:45 PM
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No.... but the Japanese should apologize for Godzilla movies ... they sucked
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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08/09/20 02:51 PM
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Nope.
Who drew first blood? American pilots flying American planes were shooting down Japanese planes over China before Japan hit Pearl Harbor. It was a tit for tat situation before Pearl Harbor. None of that really matters though, once you are in a war you fight it to win and that is what the U.S did with the bombs. If you are referring to the Flying Tigers, their first engagement was AFTER Pearl Harbor. There were a couple of mercenary pilots in China before that.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
[Re: James]
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08/09/20 02:52 PM
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Wife's grandpa was already in the army when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor I don't know how many island campaigns he was involved in , he didn't talk about it much, but he was wounded three times before he was sent home in 1944.
He despised Japanese till the day he died no telling what he saw or went through.
No.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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08/09/20 03:21 PM
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Nope.
Who drew first blood? American pilots flying American planes were shooting down Japanese planes over China before Japan hit Pearl Harbor. It was a tit for tat situation before Pearl Harbor. None of that really matters though, once you are in a war you fight it to win and that is what the U.S did with the bombs. Hmmmm, mixing apples with oranges aren't we ?! You are mistaken, American pilots were hired by the Chinese Gov't to fight the Japanese on behalf of China. Yep, they used American aircraft we sold to the Chinese. American pilots did the same for France in WWI, and again for Great Britian in WWII.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
[Re: TraderVic]
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08/09/20 03:37 PM
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Hmmmm, mixing apples with oranges aren't we ?!
You are mistaken, American pilots were hired by the Chinese Gov't to fight the Japanese on behalf of China. Yep, they used American aircraft we sold to the Chinese.
American pilots did the same for France in WWI, and again for Great Britian in WWII.
As I said it was a tit for tat situation. Once the U.S froze Japanese assets and placed an oil embargo on them war was inevitable.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
[Re: red webb]
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No!!!! and don't forget 911 Also do not forget 9/11/1565 Or 9/11/1683 two battles that secured the future of Europe against Islamic invasions.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
[Re: James]
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08/09/20 08:06 PM
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I say no.
But that doesn't mean we can't express sympathy for the survivors and regret for all the war dead on both sides.
Jim I can agree with that.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
[Re: James]
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08/09/20 08:56 PM
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Well, it looks like we don't have many Hiroshima apologists hiding out on this forum.
Who is behind the demand for apology? The Japanese I know don't expect an apology. My wife doesn't think we (she's now American) should apologize.
Jim
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
[Re: James]
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08/09/20 09:47 PM
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Anyone who's studied of the war in the pacific should know of the systematic fire bombing of Japan's cities and civilian populations beginning in March 1945 under the command of U.S. Air Force Gen. Curtis LeMay. It was LeMay who stockpiled and ordered the switch from conventional bombs to incendiaries and the subsequent bombing of some 67 Japanese cities, killing an estimated 500,000 civilians.
LeMay himself was quoted after the war as saying "if we had lost the war I'm quite certain I would have been tried as a war criminal."
War is (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). Atrocities occurred on all sides. No apologies are due.
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