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Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: charles] #6961533
08/11/20 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by charles
If it saved my life it was worth it for me. How about you. Any chance it spared someone in your family. Such a shame that half the nation did nothing and it got worse and worse.

Just how did it save your life? The entire country had to shut down. Millions had to lose their jobs or everything they worked for to save your life? You sound delusional. Then you have the gall to try and chastise others? You need to do some serious self reflection.


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Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: bblwi] #6961539
08/11/20 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
NY got hit early and very hard. They clamped down hard and stayed the course. NY now has the best chance of getting back to a better place faster than many places and with school as well. The rest of the nation took the quarterly report protocol and got bored too soon and yes many of those regions will have a much longer road to hoe. Also as we see the spikes breaking out in remote areas many realize there is no real control at all and choose to stay isolated and at home even when things open up.
I have been reviewing Craig's list frequently for some used items I want. Right after the middle of March prices fell and the listings increased. By Memorial Day the opposite was happening. Now after August 1st the listings are going way up and prices are coming down. liquidity in the society is going away fast.

Bryce

That's because Cuomo murdered all the senior citizens by placing covid patients in nursing homes. The reason NY is getting back on track fast is because it went through already and killed most of the people it could have killed. WAKE UP!


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Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: jbyrd63] #6961545
08/11/20 09:38 PM
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When this first hit NYC, we didn't know what to expect and didn't know what treatments would work. We now know that it isn't as bad as we initially thought but...it's still a real virus that will kill more people. But I don't think there is much we can do about that. We can all stay home and slow the spread but it's still going to spread. I am eventually going to get this and so are you. Why is it better to get it a year from now instead of now?

I don't think the initial reaction was political but politics quickly seized the opportunity to use this to damage the economy. The ongoing shutdown in many areas is economic vandalism.

Why can the cashier at Walmart and Home Depot stand within 5 feet of 2,000 people everyday but the local hardware store is too dangerous to open? A lot of things haven't made sense.

There may be localized outbreaks and it might make sense to shut down a town here and a town there for a while but a state wide or nation wide shutdown does not make sense.


-Ryan
Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: jbyrd63] #6961552
08/11/20 09:44 PM
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They shut the country down to SLOW the spread not STOP the spread, same with bank robber mask, rubber gloves, sanitizer's, etc, etc. all the crap you have to have according to people dumber than you in order to survive this.

By 'slowing' it they can prolong it and keep it going up until the election, cause as much damage to the economy as possible cause who can run against a booming economy?

I said when they shut things down it's not going to help, you have to let a virus run it's course, can hide from it, can run from it, can't stop it, it's going to work it's way through a population, nothing you can do about it, may as well do like Sweden and let it runs its course like we do with the flu every year and move on.


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Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: maintenanceguy] #6961557
08/11/20 09:45 PM
08/11/20 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
When this first hit NYC, we didn't know what to expect and didn't know what treatments would work. We now know that it isn't as bad as we initially thought but...it's still a real virus that will kill more people. But I don't think there is much we can do about that. We can all stay home and slow the spread but it's still going to spread. I am eventually going to get this and so are you. Why is it better to get it a year from now instead of now?

I don't think the initial reaction was political but politics quickly seized the opportunity to use this to damage the economy. The ongoing shutdown in many areas is economic vandalism.

Why can the cashier at Walmart and Home Depot stand within 5 feet of 2,000 people everyday but the local hardware store is too dangerous to open? A lot of things haven't made sense.

There may be localized outbreaks and it might make sense to shut down a town here and a town there for a while but a state wide or nation wide shutdown does not make sense.

That's what most people don't understand. That's what drives me crazy about the entire mess. EVERYONE will either get it or be exposed and it will not affect them. Just like every virus. This mask crap and this lockdown was supposed to help with the initial outbreak that was nowhere near as bad as they said. It was supposed to give the hospitals time to gear up. Now it has turned into nothing more than a political tool used by the left to try and destroy the country and Trump. I'm sick of it and I'm really sick of the morons that buy this stupid crap. You have to be a moron not to see what is going on here.


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Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: jbyrd63] #6961561
08/11/20 09:47 PM
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Not sure how NY stayed the course when a huge number died. If you understand viruses then you should know NY is not safe from getting a return wave around December when many of us northerners spend more time indoors in close quarters as many southern areas are now.

Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: Duckie1] #6961567
08/11/20 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Duckie1
Not sure how NY stayed the course when a huge number died. If you understand viruses then you should know NY is not safe from getting a return wave around December when many of us northerners spend more time indoors in close quarters as many southern areas are now.

Most are already dead! Thanks to Cuomo. A "second wave" will not be anywhere near as bad because his ineptitude already killed most of the high risk people.

Last edited by Finster; 08/11/20 09:54 PM.

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Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: jbyrd63] #6961584
08/11/20 10:05 PM
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I just wonder why before this if you got sick from a virus, the Dr said it's a virus, nothing we can do, just go home and let it run it's course. Now this election infection shows up, which isn't any more deadly than the yearly flu, and we have to shut down everything, wear a mask or face the wrath of some goofy person on the street who evidently doesn't think about everything they touch having the evil virus on it, as long as they wear a mask when they're alone in the car. This needs to run it's course and let the chips fall where they may. My wife told me awhile ago she heard people are already talking about cancelling Halloween. This whole thing is ridiculous

Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: jbyrd63] #6961600
08/11/20 10:20 PM
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I'm laying low til a vaccine comes out then see what happens.

Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: Foxpaw] #6961693
08/12/20 12:22 AM
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Here is a link that shows nursing home and assisted living related COVID deaths as of July 30th 2020.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-nursing-homes.html

I see there are state investigations regarding information from NY, there may be other states with high percentages doing that as well.

Bryce

Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: Foxpaw] #6961730
08/12/20 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
I'm laying low til a vaccine comes out then see what happens.


the vaccine with the chip in it to track and watch over us.i will take no vaccine









Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: Foxpaw] #6961732
08/12/20 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
I'm laying low til a vaccine comes out then see what happens.


Gonna be a looooooonnnnnngggggg wait. Post election minimum. People like Cuomo would have to give up absolute power and control. I for one won't hide, but I don't have a compromised immune system either. Take care Foxpaw


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Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: jbyrd63] #6961738
08/12/20 05:20 AM
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I knew personally, a woman in Lancaster PA., my grandkids gramma on their mother's side, who died after two years in a nursing home. Completely unresponsive from a diabetic induced coma. She was alone and her blood sugar dropped. Unresponsive, two years. Death certificate says covid 19. Quit watching TV. Your being lied to.


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Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: jbyrd63] #6961751
08/12/20 06:36 AM
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I’ve said it from the start that this is the biggest healthcare hoax in my lifetime. I’m glad more people are starting to realize it. I was starting to feel like the only person that could think for themselves on this board which surprised me, I guess I had higher expectations for trappers that watch nature run its course daily in the fall. Maybe it was the summer heat.

I had every symptom known to man that Covid presents with these days a few days ago. I thought maybe I’d post one of those I have Covid posts we’ve seen here based on symptoms rather than results. I figured it was just my yearly sinus infection caused by my deviated septum. They forced me to take the test for work and 30 minutes I was back in my 12 hours of work letting my body whop the virus. Had I tested positive I’d had 14 days of vacation to come up with. What a joke.


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Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: jbyrd63] #6961755
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Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: jbyrd63] #6961756
08/12/20 06:43 AM
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On a bright note Moderna just received 1.5 billion from our government to create a vaccine that’ll likely be ineffective. Other than a weatherman I can’t think of a better career field to get into. Paid 1.5 billion to take a shot in the dark on a vaccine that’ll still probably only be 50% effective at best.


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Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: jbyrd63] #6961759
08/12/20 06:45 AM
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It was scary at first because of the hype. Then many Americans realized it was just more media bullcrap and ignored the sensationalism and went about their daily lives as best they could.


Eh...wot?

Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: jbyrd63] #6961760
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vaccine is nothing but a way to get an information chip in everyone









Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: jbyrd63] #6961763
08/12/20 06:50 AM
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A virus that became a political power grab. To this day in CA, you can't "legally" enter a church building to worship. In NV,or any other state, a governor can allow a casino to operate at 50% of capacity, while only allowing 10% of a church congregation to gather. The death rate of liberty from this "bug" is the true tragedy for us and future generations.

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Re: Ok was march shut down really a waste??? [Re: jbyrd63] #6961765
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I mean I’ve pulled up vaccines from vials I think the chip deal is quite the stretch. They already know everything they need to know about you from your phone anyway. The people waiting for a vaccine as the miracle cure I wonder how they cross a road without constant fear of death. Vaccines are beneficial and have curtailed a lot of disease. They aren’t the cure all and it isn’t going to happen overnight. The bright, educated, and intelligent people working on the Covid vaccines are the same ones that have been working on a cure for HIV, your yearly influenza shot, etc. for years.


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