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Nothing Like a Threat #6962360
08/12/20 07:48 PM
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Well, the latest incident with the LT. is. The LT wanted our Password for CBT (computer based training) to keep in an email in case they needed it or someone else does. I calmly wrote back and said i needed to change it, because my current one i don't want anyone to have. And would re-set it and give it when changed. Other officers also have issues with this. Also, I suggested that keeping passwords in an email wasn't a great idea and should be kept on a hard copy and locked up.

Lt wrote back per word - Dale, totally up to you if you don't want to send in yours. That's fine, just wanted to make sure i had this info in case someone needed it. If this info is lost, disciplinary action will occur.

Folks, when the LT doesn't get their way, we are threatened in this manner. My question is, who is that someone that would need it besides me and the training officer. No one.

Captain and training officer and I will have a private meeting in due time. Lt is totally out of control. When you constantly have to threaten someone, then that reflects poor leadership. At 27 years old and spoiled, it shows. Sarge


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Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: SGT. C] #6962366
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maybe it's just me, but if my boss wanted the password that was solely for my computer-based training, he could have it.

I didn't see that as a "threat"...just letting you know there will be consequences if you lose it.


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Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: SGT. C] #6962370
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WM, hope your joking right? If they want it then way didn't they just issue everyone a password instead of leaving each officer to create their own. Your training is private, Training LT has it and should be the only one. So, if you are or aren't working, would you be happy if your supervisor wanted your facebook, email, t-man info, are you getting the point? Sarge

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Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: SGT. C] #6962373
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If I had half as many work related problems as you I would be finding myself a new job.


Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: SGT. C] #6962377
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He shouldn’t have said anything and in the event there was a problem just completed the paperwork.



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Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: SGT. C] #6962378
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Originally Posted by SGT. C
would you be happy if your supervisor wanted your facebook, email, t-man info, are you getting the point? Sarge


but that ISN'T what he asked for, IS it?????


"We didn't come all the way out here just to 'feel them on the line.' "
Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: SGT. C] #6962379
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toxic leadership, LT is a Junior officer under training, i would inform the Junior office that i would be reporting the incident to the IT department NIPER and other and that it is a security violation, i would also inform the CO that i will be contacting my congressman and try to start a congressional. Toxic leadership, Senior NCO are to mentor up and down the chain, NCO is backbone. ET Chief Petty Officer Retired. seen worse than this, in Iraq.

Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: Michigander] #6962380
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Originally Posted by Michigander
If I had half as many work related problems as you I would be finding myself a new job.


Worked to hard to give up. Been through 3 Lt's. Only had trouble with this one. Jobs are not easy to come by. I don't give up easily nor should I. Sarge


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Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: white marlin] #6962383
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by SGT. C
would you be happy if your supervisor wanted your facebook, email, t-man info, are you getting the point? Sarge


but that ISN'T what he asked for, IS it?????


Can you answer the ?????? I'm asking.


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Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: SGT. C] #6962386
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nothing burger.


"We didn't come all the way out here just to 'feel them on the line.' "
Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: SGT. C] #6962389
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if he asks for your facebook password, I'll agree that's over the line.

mmmmkay?


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Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: SGT. C] #6962397
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Only time I was asked for my password was when I was having technical issues, or my cpu wasn't recognizing some file and had to take it in.

I figured they had control of the system as it was, and if they really wanted to see what I was doing or emailing then they could without my password.


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Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: SGT. C] #6962403
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Well if he is anything like this computer illiterate fool the password will be one he can remember and used in multiple places. Changing the password and then complying is the best choice-- if the lt is not ok with that then that should tell you something. I have worked in very toxic work places before (and will not repeat that mistake). sometimes it just takes a little time to get your ducks in a row and escape. wish you luck SGT.

Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: SGT. C] #6962407
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WM, i will respect your opinion. I'm not one to give out personal info of any kind or do i cater to everyone's request. Never had been asked before and didn't see the need. I'm capable of securing my own private info. Thanks for your understanding. Sarge


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Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: SGT. C] #6962411
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Originally Posted by SGT. C
WM, i will respect your opinion. I'm not one to give out personal info of any kind or do i cater to everyone's request. Never had been asked before and didn't see the need. I'm capable of securing my own private info. Thanks for your understanding. Sarge


hey, no worries!

(just don't lose your password!)


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Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: SGT. C] #6962438
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Is this their equipment, and training materials? If so no grounds for the secrecy. Change the password then and share it.

Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: SGT. C] #6962443
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Is it an issue because you were using the same or a similar password at work that you use for email, facebook, tman, etc? Then I can see wanting to change it before giving it out.

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Why would he or anyone else need your password? We do a ton of training on the computer and it can all be checked with out needing the individuals password.


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I don’t understand why someone needs your password unless they plan on snooping. Your email is your voice. Someone could log into your account and send false messages if they know your password.

I would quit and just go fishing already at your age. Is a few extra thousand in the bank account really necessary for this much crap?


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Re: Nothing Like a Threat [Re: SGT. C] #6962479
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Never been in a leadership position before. Not used to being told no at any time in their life. Starting to micro- manage everything. Hunger for power. Losing control and losing respect of fellow officers.

I will see it through. Too stubborn to do anything else. As said before, worked to hard to have one person run me off. Now, if that were to occur, I have plan b and c in the works. With age comes wisdom, not my first rodeo.

As far as money, i want to get certain things done and paid for before i hang up punching a time clock ever again. Sarge


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