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Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967211
08/17/20 10:17 PM
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Different times, for sure

Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: maintenanceguy] #6967214
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Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
My grandfather was in Nebraska when the dust bowl hit and the family lost the farm. He said the ground cracked from being dry so bad that he was afraid the horses would break a leg in the crevasses.

He briefly worked on a WPA project building roads. He got a dollar a day and an extra dollar a day because he had a mule that he worked on the project. He was in his early 20's and heard through his church that there was work in NJ. He road his motorcycle to NJ. Said the motorcycle was too big for him and he fell off at every stop street. Fortunately there weren't may stop streets between Nebraska and NJ. He sent a letter home to let the family know there was work available and my great grandfather and the rest of the family followe
When he got here he rented some farm land and worked it with a team of horses. He said that most of the farmers had a tractor. Farming with horses was a thing of the past but he didn't have the money for tractor.

He got married, built a house, bought a farm, had 5 sons, was a deacon in our church, taught me how to sharpen a saw, and took me hunting every deer season since I was 10. A few times, when I was little, he and I walked to church service through the woods instead of driving. It was an adventure and felt like 100 miles of wilderness. I now know that there are about 3 miles of woods between his farm and our church.

He passed away 18 years ago.


Maintenance Guy, would you know what part of Nebraska that was? My Dad talks about being in school during the dust bowl and they asked the teacher to light the lamps, but it didn't help any.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: chas3457] #6967216
08/17/20 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chas3457
My dad was born in 1909 and started farming on his own in 1932. Broke horses to harness, to do his farming.

I asked him once about having good broke horses, and he said he never had 'good broke horses'.

What? I said, I thought you were a 'horse breaker'. He said he was, when he got them broke good, he sold them and started over.

I asked why he didn't keep the good broke teams, and he said "Ya can't make money that way."

Any time I mentioned 'upgrading' to 'more efficient' equipment, he said that takes money we didn't have, and the stuff we had took more work, but we had plenty of that.

He and Mom put 720 acres together with HARD WORK, and being frugal with what they had.

Dad passed away in 1990, and he is still getting smarter.


Charlie

Thanks Chas. That is an accomplishment!


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Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967228
08/17/20 10:24 PM
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My Great Grandpa walked 5 miles to town with shoes but no socks. Got a blister, it got infection, spent 5 weeks in the hospital and died.


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Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967231
08/17/20 10:29 PM
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I do not think times are tough today and I also do not think people are tough today, bunch of pansies is what most folks are.......obviously trappers are pretty tough.... smile

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Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967232
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My folks would 99 and 98 today if they were still alive. They told me stories of the hard times growing up also. That generation knows what tough is. We don't have a clue what tough times are IMO.


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Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967240
08/17/20 10:32 PM
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You mention a dug well in your post. I have a dug well on my camp’s property. It was dug in 1888 by my Great- Great Grandfather. It’s 18 feet deep, stone lined. Maybe 3 1/2 feet in diameter. Today there’s a cement pad poured on top, with a steel trap door. The water level stays about 6-7 feet below the surface of the ground. Makes a lot of water. Can’t imagine how hard it must have been to dig that hole by hand.

I store all my potatoes and flower bulbs in sacks in the well every fall. I suspend them in sacks a few feet above the water surface. The humidity is just right, it’s cool, but nothing will ever freeze. I pull sacks of taters out the next June and the are still sprout free.

Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Bigbrownie] #6967244
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
I store all my potatoes and flower bulbs in sacks in the well every fall. I suspend them in sacks a few feet above the water surface. The humidity is just right, it’s cool, but nothing will ever freeze. I pull sacks of taters out the next June and the are still sprout free.


That's novel!

Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967249
08/17/20 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson

Maintenance Guy, would you know what part of Nebraska that was? My Dad talks about being in school during the dust bowl and they asked the teacher to light the lamps, but it didn't help any.


North Loup


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Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967268
08/17/20 10:58 PM
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Father and brothers broke from the family bonds and dispersed throughout the local farming communities during the thirties,.."common" to work on neighboring farms.
What it is not spoken of so much is the resilience of those that perservierenced and worked through those turbulent times and afforded their offspring the understanding and determination to carry on and in essence further,..and get this,..a determination to succeed!

Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967295
08/17/20 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
My Dad passed last November at the age of 92. He had a great long term memory but didn't know his children sitting beside him talking to him.
About 1934, Dad was 6 yrs old. That was during the Depression, and there was a bad drought at the time to boot. Apparently the wells were hand-dug and not very deep. There probly weren't any ponds and the creeks were dry.
Anyway, one of Dad's most vivid memories was the cows that had no water or grass. Some guys cut down trees so they could eat the leaves. Eventually the cows were shot and buried in a pit. 86 years later, Dad said he could still hear those cows bawling for water and food. The Govt paid a small amount for each animal. Folks today don't know what bad times are! Yet.

I have letters from my grandfather to his brother that talked about the government buying the cows. And agent came over to over see the operation after the pit was dug to make sure that all the cattle where shot and buried properly. My grandfather loved his cows and took extremely good care of them and you can feel the heartfelt sorrow in his words when you read the letter. I can't imagine having to do something like.


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Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967318
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Compare the stories above to a reality we witness today,..I think the disconnect resides in the fact that main stream media chooses to dismiss the former
and accent the present .

Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967411
08/18/20 06:58 AM
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My grandpa was a farmer. He used teams of mules instead of horses, he said mules would out work them easily. When I asked about the good old days, he always said there wasn't a d&$# thing good about it. People worked themselves into an early grave. My other grandpa left South Dakota for Washington state to work in the apple orchards picking apples.: He kept just enough money to live on and sent the rest home. Most people don't realize how easy they it.

Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967455
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One of my grandfathers started to homestead a piece in Pueblo CO after WW I, said they had to haul water 6 miles with a team and a water wagon. Never had the money for a well to be drilled, and gave up on that, started to work for some big ranch out in Pueblo, spent a bit of time building wing dams for the guy, I assume to divert water for irrigation. He came back to WI mid 1920's and worked building hammer mills he designed till he lost that in the depression. I got my first couple traps from him and have one on the wall right now. He trapped before WW I in northern WI by Butternut, $40 wolf bounty and $6 for bobcats, said he trapped two bears before that was made illegal, people were setting in trails, poaching deer I think he said. He died in 1966, wish I had him longer, he put my first muskrat up for me, planed a roof ceder shingle into a stretcher.


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Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967459
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People in North America today have it ridiculously good these days and take it all for granted. People should be thanking their lucky stars everyday instead of seeing themselves as the victims of all victims. A little off topic because it's not a comparison to years gone by but a military acquaintance suffering serious PTSD who served in Ruanda and witnessed horrible atrocities used to say, "people complain here about heavy traffic or a day of bad weather. Complain to me when your family members severed heads are mounted on stakes in front of your house."

Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967482
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Called the greatest generation for a reason....

Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967483
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Great stories. My Dad caught a skunk and his Mother skinned it for him. That's love!
Back in those days when a man earned $1 a day, a great mink would bring $30.


I've heard it said there was a time a logger in the bush would quit and leave the camp to follow a set of fisher tracks. A fisher would pay more then the whole winters work in a lumber camp.

Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967489
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My Dads Dad hunted mountain lions in Colorado for the bounty on them. They did pretty good. Had cattle and sheep also. Raised summer wheat.

My moms Dad died when my Mom was only 12. They were just getting by before he died. My Mom talks about going with Gramma to buy chicken feed. The bags were cloth and her and my Aunts picked out the bags they wanted to make clothes out of. Said they got by. Said she went to school with kids who often had a biscuit for lunch. Biscuit had lard on it and if they were lucky they had a little sugar to sprinkle on the lard.

My Dads mom talked about feeding people as best she could. They would jump off freight trains and come to the house wanting to work for a meal.

It dont sound good. I hope it never happens again.

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Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967497
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Most people can't comprehend times before they were born. It's just a mildly interesting movie to them.i don't anyone my generation or after could even fathom saving and straightening nails.

Re: Folks think times are tough today...... [Re: Gary Benson] #6967500
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The stories I remember are about the guys that loaded train cars full of grain.... with shovels. Looking at Grandpa's hands when I was little it seemed like he could not straighten his fingers all the way out unless he flattened them against the table top. He said something about they grew that way wrapped around a shovel handle loading wheat.

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