Non resident reciprocity poll. Please read
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08/23/20 03:22 PM
08/23/20 03:22 PM
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Idahotrapguy
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Here is a controversial subject I want people to weigh in on. The Idaho Trappers Association board is looking into adjusting reciprocity for non-resident trappers. Current reciprocity for non resident trappers is as follows: Wolf trapping in Idaho has no non resident restrictions. Any person from any state in the country can trap wolves in Idaho if they buy a license, tag and take the wolf class. This rule proposal will have ZERO affect on non resident wolf trappers. On to furbearers and predators: Currently anyone can come trap animals in Idaho that there state allows Idahoans to trap there. Example. I can trap any animals in Wyoming, so Wyoming trappers can trap any animals here. Nevada doesn’t allow Idahoans to trap come down and trap bobcats so we don’t allow them to trap bobcats in Idaho. These two scenarios will NOT change. Under my watch we will never allow non-reciprocal states to trap animals in Idaho. Here is the change: In 2021 California residents cannot trap anything in Idaho because California doesn’t allow anything to be trapped in California. This rule proposal we are drafting would allow California residents to come trap here. We did not feel we should penalize California trappers just because they lost trapping. We have some Californians that are lifetime ITA members and are dedicated volunteers to us. It was two Californians out of the 7 people left that were packing tables and sweeping floors at the end of the fur sale. The second part is if a state doesn’t have an animal we have. Currently a Texas trapper can’t come to Idaho to trap marten because Texas doesn’t allow us to trap marten there. The kicker is Texas doesn’t have marten. But I can go to Texas and trap kit fox, grey fox and ring-tail cats even though Idaho doesn’t have those (and I plan to one day). To put this in prospective, last season there was 36 non-resident trapping licenses for the entire state. I’m sure some of these were for wolf trapping as well, no way knowing how many were wolf trappers and how many were predator/furbearer trappers. I know no one likes competition but it never sat well with me restricting fellow trappers. We also get a tremendous amount of support from the surrounding states. We get a lot of donations, financial help and currently have 222 ITA members from outside of Idaho. Please let me know what you think of this rule proposal. Thanks Rusty Kramer Idaho Trappers Association President 208-870-3217
Life member of ITA, NTA, and NRA. President for Idaho Trappers Association.
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Re: Non resident reciprocity poll. Please read
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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08/23/20 03:51 PM
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That seems like a very good proposal that is well thought out and fair. X2
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Re: Non resident reciprocity poll. Please read
[Re: Idahotrapguy]
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08/23/20 05:17 PM
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SundanceMtnMan
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I will have to think about this. My initial reaction is to say no to residents of states that don't allow trapping. I don't mind the Marten trapping scenario if we can trap all their fur bearers. I also think Washington trappers should be limited to cage traps in Idaho as we are limited to cage traps in their state. I may change my mind but I don't think so.
"They Say Nothing is Impossible, But, I Do Nothing Every Day."
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Re: Non resident reciprocity poll. Please read
[Re: Idahotrapguy]
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08/23/20 05:45 PM
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Gary Benson
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It probly isn't fair for trappers from every state to go to Idaho/Utah/Nevada to trap them high dollar bobcats. Them two brothers a few years ago probly caught them all anyway. They was the Conor McGregors of bobcat trappers.
Last edited by Gary Benson; 08/23/20 05:46 PM.
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Re: Non resident reciprocity poll. Please read
[Re: Idahotrapguy]
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08/23/20 06:32 PM
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maintenanceguy
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California residents would not be penalized for the rules of their state - seems reasonable.
Nevada residents would be penalized for the rules in their state. - not as reasonable.
How about: Anyone who gets the required training and pays the required licensing fee can trap? If that means too many licensed trappers for the land to support: residents pay taxes in their home state so they get priority and non residents get into a lottery. Non residents can also pay a higher fee - since they don't pay taxes that help support Fish and Game (or Division of Natural Resources, or whatever it's called in your state). In NJ, resident trapping licenses are $32. Non resident licenses are $200.
-Ryan
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Re: Non resident reciprocity poll. Please read
[Re: SNIPERBBB]
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08/23/20 10:42 PM
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WadeRyan
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Only time reciprocity should come into play is when your residents aren't allowed to pursue the same animals in another states that their residents are allowed to pursue. I would agree with that as well.
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Re: Non resident reciprocity poll. Please read
[Re: Idahotrapguy]
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08/24/20 05:36 AM
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danny clifton
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I wish Kansas were still reciprocal. Our Wildlife and Parks mucky mucks are only interested in more money. Need to fire a few people in Pratt. Maybe California can take them in.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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