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Shoot first ask questions later #6972889
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In the back no less




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Re: Shoot first ask questions later [Re: AntiGov] #6972895
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"in the back"

Ya thats what happens when you have a felony warrant and are trying to evade police and reaching into a vehicle while they yell to see your hands.

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It looks very much like he was going to the vehicle to get a weapon. He should have cooperated with the police. I think it was a reasonable, legal shooting. He got what he earned by his own stupidity and hostility.

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Before Rodney King, that would have been handled so much differently.

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I just can not understand WHY people do not do what the LE ask you to do.


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Re: Shoot first ask questions later [Re: AntiGov] #6972920
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Do stupid stuff and win stupid prizes...

Re: Shoot first ask questions later [Re: AntiGov] #6972924
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We have gone over this before


So some of you think it's ok for police to shoot someone if they don't comply ?

Or if they " might " have a gun ?

If this is ok then alot more people gonna get it in the back ....lol


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mssNOhv1UMc

Watch that video, that is why the idiot in Wisconsin got ventilated.

Re: Shoot first ask questions later [Re: ] #6972929
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Before Rodney King, that would have be handled so much differently.

Yep , and no guns drawn . And no one shot

He would have been " learned " compliance without being shot and killed ...lol


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Re: Shoot first ask questions later [Re: AntiGov] #6972930
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Instead of pointing your weapon at him while pulling his shirt. Holster your weapon and take him to the ground if you would like to have control of the person.

But, none of us were there and non of us know what happened leading up to it. So, let the evidence come forward and allow an investigation to be completed by people who’s job it is to investigate these things.

Hopefully the facts will rule the day.



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Re: Shoot first ask questions later [Re: AntiGov] #6972931
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This sums things up perfectly. I posted it on the other thread about this also.

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Re: Shoot first ask questions later [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6972935
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mssNOhv1UMc

Watch that video, that is why the idiot in Wisconsin got ventilated.



Not even comparable


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Originally Posted by AntiGov
We have gone over this before


So some of you think it's ok for police to shoot someone if they don't comply ?

Or if they " might " have a gun ?

If this is ok then alot more people gonna get it in the back ....lol


Its never 'ok' to shoot someone because they didnt comply, but if there is a chance that they are going for a gun then the gloves come off. Unless you have been in a situation like that you cant imagine how fast things move. You have mili seconds to make a decision. It could be life or death for you. Mistakes can be fatal. I believe the police should get the benefit of the doubt. The first thing that you always see is the perp being combative...hes already crossed the line so who knows whats next. In every single one of these incidents the perp was combative. Instead of blaming the police why dont people understand that if everyone would give the police the respect they deserve these shootings would be a thing of the past?


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Re: Shoot first ask questions later [Re: AntiGov] #6972943
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mssNOhv1UMc

Watch that video, that is why the idiot in Wisconsin got ventilated.



Not even comparable




Of course it is, the suspect is going to the vehicle against the officers orders, he has a felony warrant out, he is involved in a domestic, the cops have no idea whos kids are in the car.

Re: Shoot first ask questions later [Re: AntiGov] #6972947
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So AntiGov how did you reach your conclusion when no one has any facts yet? Nothing has been released other than a 20 second video. You don't know what happened, I don't know what happened. A little early to make a decision. The only thing I do know is that he had a warrant for a 3rd degree sexual assault. Obviously a felony and I know by watching the video that he was not complying with lawful orders. Other than that no one knows buccus yet.

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Re: Shoot first ask questions later [Re: Finster] #6972966
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Originally Posted by Finster
So AntiGov how did you reach your conclusion when no one has any facts yet? Nothing has been released other than a 20 second video. You don't know what happened, I don't know what happened. A little early to make a decision. The only thing I do know is that he had a warrant for a 3rd degree sexual assault. Obviously a felony and I know by watching the video that he was no complying with lawful orders. Other than that no one knows buccus yet.



I agree Finster , I may have jumped the gun .....lol

I'm guessing if he had reached in the car and a gun was visible it wouldn't be kept a secret , and he would have gotten what he deserved.

I'm not sticking up for the dirt bag , there were several cops there and they could've just beat him down.


My point is that it just can't be acceptable to shoot someone because they " might " have a gun

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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mssNOhv1UMc

Watch that video, that is why the idiot in Wisconsin got ventilated.



The cop in this video if I understand it correctly should have shot the lunatic immediately upon the visual of a gun .


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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Originally Posted by Finster
So AntiGov how did you reach your conclusion when no one has any facts yet? Nothing has been released other than a 20 second video. You don't know what happened, I don't know what happened. A little early to make a decision. The only thing I do know is that he had a warrant for a 3rd degree sexual assault. Obviously a felony and I know by watching the video that he was no complying with lawful orders. Other than that no one knows buccus yet.



I agree Finster , I may have jumped the gun .....lol

I'm guessing if he had reached in the car and a gun was visible it wouldn't be kept a secret , and he would have gotten what he deserved.

I'm not sticking up for the dirt bag , there were several cops there and they could've just beat him down.


My point is that it just can't be acceptable to shoot someone because they " might " have a gun

Careful, thoughts like that offend many on here, (They will start calling you names)

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Don’t be to quick to judge he said he was going to hi car to get a gun and was reaching for something when he was shot. Police shouldn’t have to let the other guy to shoot first. When are they going to teach there children to comply. There has never been a suspect shot that was not resisting.

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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mssNOhv1UMc

Watch that video, that is why the idiot in Wisconsin got ventilated.



The cop in this video if I understand it correctly should have shot the lunatic immediately upon the visual of a gun .

So the cop should of waited until the guy had an AK47 visible to shoot? Bit of a lopsided fight by that point

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