Re: If you had to pick a caliber...
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Re: If you had to pick a caliber...
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7-08 best all around i have never shot it past 400 and every deer I have shot under that never lifted a foot.
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Re: If you had to pick a caliber...
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I’m thinking about buying a new rifle. Likely a tikka unless you guys would like to share other opinions. The only other rifle I own- ....... What would you buy if you were in my shoes? Thanks! Several more rifles. If I was in your shoes. I'd start with a 7mm. Rem Mag. Small to cal. Bullets 140gr bonded are great on deer. But I could never have just two.
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Re: If you had to pick a caliber...
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7-08 best all around i have never shot it past 400 and every deer I have shot under that never lifted a foot. I have a 270 now and I am having a friend put me a 7mm-08 to gather we got the barrel ordered and the trigger, as soon as that gets here we will get a stock. I have shot his 6.5 he has at a 1000 yard and it will just flat out shoot. I dont know how well it would do on a hunt but for paper i dont think the 6 5 can be beat. He just put a 300 prc to gather so we will be giving that a try next.
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Re: If you had to pick a caliber...
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7mm or 300wm. U can kill anything in North America with them at any reasonable range. Ammo is readily available. Keep it simple.
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Re: If you had to pick a caliber...
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I’m thinking about buying a new rifle. Likely a tikka unless you guys would like to share other opinions. The only other rifle I own- ....... What would you buy if you were in my shoes? Thanks! Several more rifles. If I was in your shoes. I'd start with a 7mm. Rem Mag. Small to cal. Bullets 140gr bonded are great on deer. But I could never have just two. I’m sure I’ll have more rifles some day, but at 18 I gotta stick to just one more
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Re: If you had to pick a caliber...
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I love these debates I do not deny. We all like to hear our own logic is probably most of it.
Personally I would go with one of the 7mm's. Readily available for most over the counter, and all have brass from every supplier. My first loved cartridge is the 7mm-08. I can head shoot an antelope with my Savage and 120gr as long as I either shoot up wind or down wind (there is never no wind in antelope country!). 401 yards after 1000 off season practice rounds from 300-500 rds.
Durable hunting (and target) rounds in 1000s of variations. Nosler 120 BT and Speer 145 Hot Cor spitzer are my do-alls antelope, deer, hog, black bear. Elk I would go a 160 and probably Nosler Partition. Moose I might try 175. The advantage of the larger cased 7mm's to me is their willingness to spin heavy bullets for less wind drift and larger animals. I can imagine the need for a heavy bullet in .28 Nosler on a late season bull elk or late season Yukon moose or sheep. After 500 yds the energy passes the .300 Winchesters best loads. If I ever bought one I would have to SEEK a hunt to match the rifle.
The 280 AI or 7 Rem Mag add 100 yds to the -08; 100 yd velocity compares to muzzle velocity (Same the .300 does to the .30-06 for that matter). The .28 Nosler adds 100 on top of that (at 200 yds is at 08 velocity), but it lets you know you shot it.
Honestly that .280 AI is the most gain out of any of the AI rounds and has noticeably less recoil than the Rem Mag. Neighborhood of a .30-06. Can shoot the heavy weights maybe not at extreme distances, but 350 yds no problem. And it come in ultra light weight rifles if you are thinking vertical hunting goats or sheep or backpack elk. I do not own one, but I think about it.
HOWEVER, in a couple weeks I leave for high elevations and bugling elk in Wyoming. I am taking a grand old cartridge in a modern rifle. .35 Whelen with 250 gr Speer Hot Cor in a Nosler rifle. 300 yds I am good and only mounted a 1.75X6 Leupold on it. I can't do 400 with that combo, but those 200 gr Superformance Hornady could it I chose. If I can't get within 100 yds in bugling season I probably should learn to hunt better. There is no magnum recoil on my bullets but they are known to stop an elk right now with a good shot. Hope to use it on a called moose hunt someday and that is why I bought it. Want to go to Africa and shoot a Kudu with it too. It is very similar to why I use Sleepy Creek double longs I think...time honored and nostalgic but with modern benefits.
The last three rifles I bought were preceded by dies and brass! Just how it played out: .35 Whelen, .45-70 High Wall, .26 Nosler. I am goofy like that.
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Re: If you had to pick a caliber...
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part of what made me decide 308
same bullet speer 180gr spbt .540 with a 218 yard zero
-----------------------------100--------------200------------------300--------------400------------500 308 2580fps +2.3 +1 -7.3 -23.4 -48.4
30-06 2700fps +2.2 +0.9 -6.6 -21.1 -43.6
300wm 2850fps +1.8 +0.8 -5.8 -18.6 -38.6
with beyond 300 yards being less important to me for game
the efficiency of the cartridge and price per round became a focus for me I intended to shoot a couple hundred a year or more.
the 308 takes about 44gr of powder
the 30-06 is around 55gr or powder
the 300wm is around 70gr of powder
there is a time and place for Magnum but it burns a lot of powder to shoot very much for every 1 round of 300wm I could load 1.5 of 308
this made a difference for me along with brass availability and ability to shoot all afternoon comfortably
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