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Body Grip triggers for coon #6977526
08/29/20 02:51 PM
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Has an optimum BG trigger pattern for coon ever been established? The one's I'm familiar with are as follows.....

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Outside of elevated traps in barns, we are limited to 5 x 5 BG's that I might use on coon. Past few weeks, I have been setting test traps in the barn with the 5 x 5's in boxes trying to decide if they are workable. So far, I've caught and killed every coon that tried it, but with less than optimum strikes. And a part of that is what shows up to be trapped. Still getting family groups with sows and this year's kits. Mostly catching the kits....which are running about 10 pounds. Measured heads on a couple of those and distance outside the ears around 3 1/2 inches.....so traps are big enough for those. Probably the ideal size for them. But that big boar that I see now and then on video......I'd worry about him.

Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6977532
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I use #1 with a very small bend at the end of each wire to snag the fur and make sure the trap trips.

Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6977570
08/29/20 03:44 PM
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Here's another configuration to consider. May have to trim them for a 5x5.

https://www.funketraptags.com/product-page/body-grip-bolt-on-circle-triggers

Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6977579
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Same restriction here in NY. Going to try corrugated plastic political signs this Fall to make a pan for coon to step on?

Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6977657
08/29/20 06:00 PM
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Some guys practically cut them off on 5x5s to maybe a half inch long.

Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6977664
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Pans or bell shaped trigger made from xtra long trigger wires from Southeastern Outdoors...whose catalog sposd to already be on yer desk. ...if Your local mentor has done their job.


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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6977702
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Pan triggers are the ultimate for most species when using a box or cubby set. A wide open space with no cold metal wires in their face to deter them from entering the set. As well, when the trap is recessed deep into the box just in front of the bait the animal, while stable at the trap, with its neck through the jaws fires the trap with its chin while working the bait.


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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6977823
08/29/20 08:34 PM
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I run 160s in boxes and trails, a few 220s. For the 160s I like the trigger on the bottom with the wires making a T. The T starts maybe 1/4" up from the trigger body. They hit it with their chin just like with a pan but I don't have to fool with the pan. Catch a few reds in those boxes too. With 220s in trails I again put the trigger on the bottom but spread the V fairly wide - 90% neck catches on coon.

Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6977986
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Animals ten to go into conibear traps a lot faster if the trigger is on the bottom in a low T pattern.

Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6978097
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I use #2 with a slight bend inward on ends. I pick mink sometimes in my coon 160s and mine are set in blind trail sets along weedy ditches and fencerows, or weedy trails to coon dens. Pull some of the weeds around the trap and over it they push right through and gets em behind the ears everytime. I get few misses in blind sets.

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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: AnthonyT] #6978255
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Originally Posted by AnthonyT
I run 160s in boxes and trails, a few 220s. For the 160s I like the trigger on the bottom with the wires making a T. The T starts maybe 1/4" up from the trigger body. They hit it with their chin just like with a pan but I don't have to fool with the pan. Catch a few reds in those boxes too. With 220s in trails I again put the trigger on the bottom but spread the V fairly wide - 90% neck catches on coon.


I'm a visual learner......so in that light, I have expanded my original set of options. I am assuming your T is like option 7?

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I also have some 160's and they are a substantial improvement over these 5 x 5 traps.......in almost every way. But the 5 x 5 is what we have to work with. I can see the low set T opens things up a lot....as does the short stubs in option 8. In both options. Would love to see how these work when a coon pokes his head in there. What hits what to cause trap to fire and when. Also have the option of reversing these to place trigger wires to the back.

Seems to me a coon has about same distance between base of snout.......where his face and head widens out.....to neck area behind the ears......as his head is wide. Implication being with a small coon, triggers on these 5 x 5 traps may need to be towards front or open side of box......and with big coon, to the back.....to get enough of his head in there to catch him where it counts.

I have also discovered that the CMT 5 x 5 I've been setting appears to have a 2 way trigger. I set triggers like #1, pushed triggers to side and up and nothing happened. So that trigger pattern may not work for this trap. The T might not either if one of the actions that fires the trap is pushing down on one side of the T.

Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6978276
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The short trigger stubs fire when the back of the neck hump on the coon hits the trigger so hes fully committed when the trap fires.

Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6978484
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I run 220s in trail sets here and I put my triggers straight down and off to one side. Gives a big opening . A few small ones probably get through but that's a good thing!

Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: SNIPERB🦝] #6978654
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Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
The short trigger stubs fire when the back of the neck hump on the coon hits the trigger so hes fully committed when the trap fires.


That configuration is what he recommends in this video for trail sets. In boxes he said to put the trigger on top to the inside of the box and bend them almost straight back toward the bait. Got a dozen of them this year to try since we have the same limitation. Going to run boxes.

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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6978701
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That is exactly how I have the T trigger set up.

Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6978890
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Where can I purchase the Scott Adams book? Not at MTP or F & T.

Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6978946
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It's a DVD

Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6978947
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080808 - Scott Adams has a video. F&T should have it.

Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6978955
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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: cheechako] #6978960
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Originally Posted by cheechako
Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
The short trigger stubs fire when the back of the neck hump on the coon hits the trigger so hes fully committed when the trap fires.


That configuration is what he recommends in this video for trail sets. In boxes he said to put the trigger on top to the inside of the box and bend them almost straight back toward the bait. Got a dozen of them this year to try since we have the same limitation. Going to run boxes.

[Linked Image]


Again, I'm a visual learner, so took a stab a a sketch of what is being suggested.

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Depending on size, seems to me a coon could get pretty deep into the trap before it fired. Caught one large kit in 120 Belisle with triggers set on bottom in a V and to the rear and suitcased it.....rear bars caught the neck, but fronts landed in the middle of it's back......and it struggled a couple minutes. But an adult coon might set it off going through. Thinking about where the front of the head would be when triggers like this were reached, vs. where it would be with short stubs....or any of the other configurations.

This is staring to look like bass fishing with an ultralight and 4# test line. Takes some finesse.

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