Going Green
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08/31/20 03:06 PM
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If this ever comes to pass, America will become a second rate nation militarily. Can you image the disadvantage of having a solar-powered tank versus a fossil fuel powered one? Just the power it takes for a tank's operation would mean half of the tank would be filled with batteries. What do we use for aircraft, gliders? We wouldn't have a chance in a war with any country still using fossil fuels.
It has been discussed on here before about all the disadvantages of solar or wind power. For us living in cold climates a solar powered vehicle would not last half as long if you wanted to use your heater in the winter. Traffic jams use up much of your battery's power. Breakdowns would be common. The emergency roadside assistance people would be busy.
The green people lack common sense when it comes to thinking things through. Solar or wind are fine as a supplemental plan, but not a replacement plan.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: Going Green
[Re: Trapper7]
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08/31/20 03:21 PM
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Liberal dream. Internal combustion engines will never be replaced. Sure, a battery car can zoom to the supermarket but isn't going the long haul down the Interstate. And diesel engines will NEVER be replaced in OTR rigs. Shag trucks in a parking lot, yes. Battery powered construction equipment? I think not.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: Going Green
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08/31/20 03:32 PM
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How about propane-powered vehicles? I've heard they are more air-friendly. Not sure how they compare to diesel or gasoline vehicles; less power, but less pollution?
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: Going Green
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08/31/20 03:38 PM
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These "green energy" folks are some of the same people that stand behind BLM. They apparently don't mind the fact that places like the Congo use child labor, yes the children are black, to mine the cobalt used in the batteries for their junk. Green energy is a fantasy the libs are selling. There is a cost for everything.
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Re: Going Green
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08/31/20 03:52 PM
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How about propane-powered vehicles? I've heard they are more air-friendly. Not sure how they compare to diesel or gasoline vehicles; less power, but less pollution? Main thing is that there's not many stations, I think there's one in town. The few CNG you see are fleet vehicles like UPS or the odd school bus that the schools o probably got a deal on.
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Re: Going Green
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08/31/20 03:53 PM
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Liberal dream. Internal combustion engines will never be replaced. Sure, a battery car can zoom to the supermarket but isn't going the long haul down the Interstate. And diesel engines will NEVER be replaced in OTR rigs. Shag trucks in a parking lot, yes. Battery powered construction equipment? I think not. Never is a long time.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Going Green
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08/31/20 07:47 PM
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I recently heard or a hydrogen vehicle that had a range that far exceeds today's passenger vehicles.
Never underestimate American ingenuity.
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Re: Going Green
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I recently heard or a hydrogen vehicle that had a range that far exceeds today's passenger vehicles.
Never underestimate American ingenuity. And regulatory protectionism (aka cronyism)
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Re: Going Green
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08/31/20 08:41 PM
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Isn't hydrogen 20 times more volatile than gasoline ?
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Re: Going Green
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08/31/20 09:01 PM
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Traffic jams use up much of your battery's power. Breakdowns would be common. The emergency roadside assistance people would be busy.
The green people lack common sense when it comes to thinking things through. Solar or wind are fine as a supplemental plan, but not a replacement plan. If people lived where they worked and got out of the way of truckers that would solve most of the problems and states wouldn't need to be subsidizing folks suburban dream by creating unnecessary infrastructure.
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Re: Going Green
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08/31/20 09:10 PM
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Liberal dream. Internal combustion engines will never be replaced. Sure, a battery car can zoom to the supermarket but isn't going the long haul down the Interstate. And diesel engines will NEVER be replaced in OTR rigs. Shag trucks in a parking lot, yes. Battery powered construction equipment? I think not. I share all all of your sentiments with the exception of diesel engines NEVER being replaced in OTR rigs. Go to Asia you will see all sorts of propane or LPG semis with a big battery of gas cylinders sitting behind the cab.
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