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Fur Harvester's Auction Results #6979434
08/31/20 07:57 PM
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What's up with the FHA? I sent in a bunch of furs last March, the Auction was cancelled back in March and May due to Covid. They suspended the auction until August 30-31. I just looked at the results. Looks like only about a third of my hides sold. What gives? Is there something going on with the market we should be aware of? Gosh dang, with these kind of results I might not trap this winter.

Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Bushwhack Jack] #6979463
08/31/20 08:30 PM
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Except for heavy coyotes, skunks, wolverine and wolves there basically is NO fur market. No demand. Plenty of fur available. No point in trapping more just to have it sit in warehouses and plug up the pipeline.

The truth hurts. Sorry.


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Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Bushwhack Jack] #6979472
08/31/20 08:43 PM
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That is the absolute unvarnished truth wissmiss. There is no market for most fur right now.

Last edited by Jasonj; 08/31/20 08:45 PM.
Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Bushwhack Jack] #6979477
08/31/20 08:49 PM
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Will there still be a hatter market for beaver? I have some to catch for pay. Harvest castor and tail(bounty) and usually skin. If no fur/hatter market though I could skip the skinning part.


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Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Jasonj] #6979490
08/31/20 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jasonj
That is the absolute unvarnished truth wissmiss. There is no market for most fur right now.

Yeppers


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Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Bushwhack Jack] #6979550
08/31/20 10:03 PM
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He sold a third of his pelts and he's complaining? I had 77 misc pelts on this auction and sold two.


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Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Bushwhack Jack] #6979586
08/31/20 10:28 PM
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I feel there is no fur market other than coyotes. The rest of what sold is the trinket trade, not the fur market. If this is breaking news you were to far out in the bush.


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Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Bushwhack Jack] #6979599
08/31/20 10:39 PM
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If you don’t trap this year because you believe there’s no market then I hope you don’t use trapping as a reason to keep healthy animal populations and control disease.


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Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Bushwhack Jack] #6979601
08/31/20 10:41 PM
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Jurassic. No comprendo.


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Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Bushwhack Jack] #6979605
08/31/20 10:45 PM
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I’ve had the commodities markets kick my butt since I was a kid. The best advice I have for the fur trade is take a deep breath. It won’t rebound like corn or soybeans but it will improve as months go by and things settle down. Also never take advice from a farmer. Lol


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Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Pawnee] #6979609
08/31/20 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Pawnee
I’ve had the commodities markets kick my butt since I was a kid. The best advice I have for the fur trade is take a deep breath. It won’t rebound like corn or soybeans but it will improve as months go by and things settle down. Also never take advice from a farmer. Lol

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Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Bushwhack Jack] #6979614
08/31/20 10:49 PM
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The backlog of stored and pelted out ranch fur has to clear out first.

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Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: beaverpeeler] #6979617
08/31/20 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Jurassic. No comprendo.


What I meant is if you decide not to trap this year because there is no fur market then I hope you don’t say you trap to keep animal populations healthy, keep disease down, etc when asked the reason why you trap.


Because if there is no place to sell the fur, there’s still many reasons why trapping is important.

If you only trap for money that is fine. I’m not against it.


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Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Bushwhack Jack] #6979711
09/01/20 06:28 AM
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Well, anyone who has trapped 20, 30, or some of 40+ years are no strangers to crappy prices years. Everyone talks about the good years, but wow have we had some doozy bad years too.
I wished I had saved more of my sale sheets over the years. I vividly remember one year in late 80s getting average of $4 on 44 finished coyotes. That was my average for finished dogs. Most i had caught in one season and worst price i ever got for them too. Not many trapped coyotes that year. The pickup army here were just dumping them in creeks since buyer wouldn't take carcass coyotes.
Coon have had some real swings too. About 10 years ago my kids were getting $20 bills for carcass coon and I tried to explain to them it wasn't always like that. Last year it was $1 or $4 for carcass coon, $10 if skinned.
This year i doubt anyone will buy any coon, even finished coon.
And rats. I've sold nice finished rats for lots of different prices over the years. I remember $5 and $6 dollar rats, and I remember $0.10 rats too. Yep, a dime.
Everyone remembers the good years. We need to remember we see crap years too. This year if we are able to sell anything other than coyotes we need to count our blessings. Ask any farmer...they would love to see $7 corn again instead of $2.80 current price. But even $2.80 is better than $0.00 no sale.
When times get tough i pull out old crappy year fur sale sheets and remind myself many years i don't make money. But ive never had a pheasant pay me a dime back either and personally I'd rather eat chicken than pheasant but they are fun to hunt.
Some pics of my crappy year sales i keep around, thought I would share. This year id be very happy to get $1 for coon again. $1 is better than $0.00 no sale. My gut tells me we will not have any coon buyers around here, and that is uncharted territory for my 40+ years of trapping.
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Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Bushwhack Jack] #6979756
09/01/20 07:41 AM
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jabNE- Again, I appreciate your perspective, but you forgot one thing. The value of money now is not the same as the value of money in the past. $4 in 2020 does not have the same buying power as $4 in 1989. The inflation calculator I first ran across doing a search says $4 in in 1989 would be $8.36 today. That needs to be kept in mind a little bit. But you're correct on no offer. Zero divided by zero is still zero. I wonder how fast the clean skull market will saturate...?


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Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Bushwhack Jack] #6979765
09/01/20 07:54 AM
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All I know is 100 coyotes from east Ks would buy a brand new top of the line 4WD pickup including tags insurance and sales tax in 1980. (after expenses) Today about 15-20 of them would sell for about a 20 buck average. It takes about 150 bucks today to buy what 20 bucks would buy in 1980. (my best guess)

The best coyotes come from western states where government control agents knock the tar out of coyote populations. There is good reason why Robert Wadell didnt try his 1000 coyote season in MT WY or N.D.

If you catch 100 of those pretty westerns, after expenses, you wont have enough money to buy a good USED 4wd pickup.

Last edited by danny clifton; 09/01/20 07:56 AM.

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Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Bushwhack Jack] #6979768
09/01/20 07:55 AM
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too bad we didn't see this coming.









Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Bushwhack Jack] #6979770
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What I didnt see coming was COVID panic.


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Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Bushwhack Jack] #6979777
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how'd ya like to spend 40 yrs learning fur and working for buyers to someday be the "guy"-only to end up here.but i'm not bitter. grin









Re: Fur Harvester's Auction Results [Re: Bushwhack Jack] #6979823
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It’s a tough sell when you have to wear a mask with your $10,000.00 fur coat and no place was open to wear it.

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