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Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979333
08/31/20 06:04 PM
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Interestingly my coyote average this year is within a few cents of half of last years average. Last year $66.83, this year $33.40. Still have three western cats that had presale valuations of around $650 to $700 each. I'd take $650 for all three together right now and be thrilled. Oh yeah and one at NAFA that I guess I'll just donate being the sort of guy I am.

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Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979342
08/31/20 06:18 PM
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I wonder if they're be any limits at this Sept FHA video sale...? I'm sure they'll find more buyers at say 20% of the this sale's valuation. Sort of like NFA a few years back saying, "we need to find the 'floor' of the market"...


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Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979349
08/31/20 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Originally Posted by ebsurveyor
Question for you FHA people. Two of my coyotes ended up in a lot that was not in the catalog. I now see that they sold for $15 each. Any one know what this lot number means?

159957 1X-LG II HVY-SEMI A-B


I think that means they were sold over the summer. Sometime between the April online sale and today’s live auction. Just a hunch.

There are any number of folks with those type lots. Mostly coyotes.


Thanks.

Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979355
08/31/20 06:34 PM
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I think there will be some sort of limits or valuations. FH will want to somehow protect the buyers that purchased goods yesterday and today at the live auction.

If FH starts unloading goods for what ever they are offered, todays buyers will feel like they got......

FH is in a tight spot and they are walking a fine line to try and keep every one happy.

Should be interesting........


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Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979367
08/31/20 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
I think there will be some sort of limits or valuations. FH will want to somehow protect the buyers that purchased goods yesterday and today at the live auction.

If FH starts unloading goods for what ever they are offered, todays buyers will feel like they got...... violated like a trapper.

FH is in a tight spot and they are walking a fine line to try and keep every one happy.

Should be interesting........


Finished that for you! smile


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Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979376
08/31/20 07:00 PM
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No comment. smile


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Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979405
08/31/20 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
No comment. smile


Guess we arent “all in this together”?!


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Re: FH auction [Re: Guy Johnson] #6979409
08/31/20 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Guy Johnson
Just an observation from almost 60 years of trapping and selling fur. I have never in my life sold a number 1 female fisher for 12 dollars nor have I sold 3X muskrats for 2.50 at the value of money today that 17" inch beautiful rat cannot even buy me a coffee at Dunkins! It is extremely apparent that for all intents and purposes there is no wild fur market, these prices do not even reflect speculation, they are almost of no commercial value, in 1968 i sold my rats for $1.30 nose count with the kits and damaged out, in the crash of 89 which was the worst in my career I still sold my 3x/Xl rats for 3.00 I had hoped that somehow there would still be enough market world wide to have fur be of some value, it has no value! when a beautiful winter muskrat cannot buy a cup of coffee for all intents and purposes they have no value! What is next?



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Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979436
08/31/20 07:57 PM
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Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979464
08/31/20 08:31 PM
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Well said Guy Johnson!!!!

Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979467
08/31/20 08:35 PM
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I sat out the last 2 years and strictly hunted coyotes.sold all of them to groenwold.I plan on hunting coyotes but (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) I was putting them up when they were bringing 15.00.my plan more steelhead fishing hunt thru dec and early Jan for totes and not set a trap.


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mink 0
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beaver 1
yotes 7
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Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979743
09/01/20 07:27 AM
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greg s with fur harvesters told me when nafa closed that fur harvesters would not carry fur over from one year to the next you might not have seen any thing yet

Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979853
09/01/20 09:41 AM
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Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979871
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not sure thats something a lot of guys want to hear if it means selling cheap

Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979953
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If FH isn’t going to carry over any fur, what are they going to do with it. Burn it??

At this point, there are some items that no one wants, even if FH gave them the pelts.

FH is truly stuck between a rock and a hard place. I wouldn’t want to be Mark Downey and his team. They are doing the best they can to get through a difficult time. Folks need to cut them some slack.


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Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979960
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Wouldn't make any sense to hold over pelts with no value, regardless of how many there are.

Re: FH auction [Re: Mike C] #6979965
09/01/20 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike C
Wouldn't make any sense to hold over pelts with no value, regardless of how many there are.


I believe the pelts they are holding over are the good pelts. They have value. They may increase in value after the corona shutdown is gone when buyers can show up. No sense giving them away during the shutdown.


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Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979968
09/01/20 11:57 AM
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Totally agree with wissmiss. Going to be a looooooong time before we see respectable prices on fur. Also that doesn’t include the possibility of a recession and or inflation. Some of us are old enough to remember the early 80’s.

Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979978
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Dirt, I think a lot of pelts left have value, as it APPEARS just the very best sold, along with some of the lesser value pelts. A lot of what didn't sell is good stuff they were not going to give away. (as of yet) But there is also a lot of fur with no value in this market and with no speculative buyers it will be a while before such pelts sell. I don't think they will be able to justify the cost of storage, and have to toss them.

Re: FH auction [Re: wissmiss] #6979994
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FHA Condition of Sale
11. Unsold pelts are not returnable. They will be re-offered on subsequent sales until sold or in the case of poor quality skins to be declared “ No Value” . Skins that have no commercial value will be turned over to the Ministry of Natural Resources for disposal. These skins will appear on your printout as “no value”.


They have already put the money into grading them and putting them into lots......would take more then one sale season for them to cut their loses and declare them no value. Plus the uproar from the trapping community is not something they are looking for.

Not going to happen this year but what might happen this trapping season is the lower end stuff that always gets sent in might be graded harder. Would not surprise me to see more trappers receiving "no Value" grades on stuff that use to be III or DMG. Would not blame them in this environment.

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