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'winner' of 2020 POTUS? #6983398
09/05/20 01:24 PM
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Marty Offline OP
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Will we know the winner of the 2020 POTUS election before 2021? Seems to me the 'declared winner' will be the result of some process (set out by the constitution) other than the election/electoral result. The constitution sets out quite a few options to declare the winner if states refuse to provide election results/designate election winner of their electoral votes.

What say U?

Please keep it on the topic and not on individual politics, thank you.


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6983404
09/05/20 01:38 PM
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Yea, we’ll know. We know now. America better get ready even temporarily for the nightmare of President Pelosi. Either side, most likely in this case the Democrat party will tie things up in the courts, as already promised. A contested election gone long enough will result in the Speaker of the House assuming the Presidency. Sadly, I think that our Constitution will be stretched and tested very soon. Find the facts, check them and keep our eyes open.



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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6983406
09/05/20 01:39 PM
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I say, “I looking for a reason to declare war on the communist trying to take over the country. I’m praying they come to their senses but if they don’t, give us a reason that’s better than our guilt.”


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6983407
09/05/20 01:42 PM
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I have no guilt.


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6983424
09/05/20 02:14 PM
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Like I told a buddy today... I understand "absentee voting" but "voting by mail" is another deal. I vote by mail because I live in Europe.

As said here recently, if you can't take the time to vote properly as we always have, then you shoudn't vote.

Pete

Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: SpottedOwl] #6983438
09/05/20 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SpottedOwl
Yea, we’ll know. We know now. America better get ready even temporarily for the nightmare of President Pelosi. Either side, most likely in this case the Democrat party will tie things up in the courts, as already promised. A contested election gone long enough will result in the Speaker of the House assuming the Presidency. Sadly, I think that our Constitution will be stretched and tested very soon. Find the facts, check them and keep our eyes open.



Owl

Exactly why the Democrats want mail-in voting so they can contest it and hold it up and put Pelosi in office as an interim president


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6983450
09/05/20 02:49 PM
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I think not!
I actually saw a "Nebraskans for Biden" sign in town this morning. Very close to the house.


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6983454
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Is voting by mail even legal? Not talking about absentee voting. Who decided it's legal to do it instead of going to the polls?


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6983457
09/05/20 02:58 PM
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I think its very unlikely that we will know for weeks after the election. Look at what they are trying to do in Maine...


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6983466
09/05/20 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty
I have no guilt.


You would have no guilt over killing a kid that was formally an American?


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: 330-Trapper] #6983468
09/05/20 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Exactly why the Democrats want mail-in voting so they can contest it and hold it up and put Pelosi in office as an interim president


But a questions I’ve not been able to answer. Being constitutionally appointed as interim and not actually elected by the people, does she (the Speaker of the House) get the full powers of the Presidency? Is there a time limit to the appointment or could she(the Speaker of the House) conceivably be President for four years until there is an non-contested election? Does anyone know the answer to these questions?



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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: SpottedOwl] #6983469
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Originally Posted by SpottedOwl
Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Exactly why the Democrats want mail-in voting so they can contest it and hold it up and put Pelosi in office as an interim president


But a questions I’ve not been able to answer. Being constitutionally appointed as interim and not actually elected by the people, does she (the Speaker of the House) get the full powers of the Presidency? Is there a time limit to the appointment or could she(the Speaker of the House) conceivably be President for four years until there is an non-contested election? Does anyone know the answer to these questions?



Owl


She’ll be toothless with a republican majority in the house and senate.


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6983476
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Wait.......Will she even be Speaker with a republican majority in the house?


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6983482
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The democrats will contest all the other smaller offices that are even remotely close, that are being voted on too.

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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6983520
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Wait.......Will she even be Speaker with a republican majority in the house?

First point of business!!!!


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6983726
09/05/20 09:32 PM
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The Constitution explicitly lays out the days for the election, voting by the Electoral College, and the Inauguration. Those dates can only be changed by Congress and good luck Nancy getting the Turtle to go along with that !

On January 20, 2021 either DJT or Hiden Biden will be sworn in.

Why would an interim president be needed ? Even if Trump loses the election he is still president until the new one takes office which will be January 20.


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6983734
09/05/20 09:43 PM
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So, if enough states decide they cannot certify the result there may not be enough electoral votes to elect either one of the candidates. Guarantee you that neither candidate will be conceding a loss.


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6983758
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If the states cannot certify their electoral votes they forfeit them. I don't see that happening


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: white17] #6983787
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Originally Posted by white17
If the states cannot certify their electoral votes they forfeit them. I don't see that happening


A few states choose to do this and neither one can win with enough electoral votes. 'They' will do anything to get rid of Trump. I see anything happening because 2020 has taught me that anything can be allowed to happen or made happen.


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Re: 'winner' of 2020 POTUS? [Re: Marty] #6983793
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IF the electoral college results are contested, deemed invalid, or some other nonsense, as I understand the process, it would go to a vote in the state houses. Of which more are "R" than "D".

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