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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6980921
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I did not have coon in my area so do not know what set back from bait and trap height above ground/box bottom would be best. As iv'e said
before it all depends on the target animals stance at the bait, and that's for you to determine thru experiment/experience with coon behavior.


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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6980924
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Coon trapping with BG boxes.

If you place your trap way back In the box your chances of a catch start to diminish. Keep the trap right In the opening. You don' want the coon trying to crawl Into the box. A pan on a 160 has no value In a 160 coon box.
Tune your trigger so you have a minimum of trigger travel before the trap fires. This will give you a perfect hit right behind the ears. keep your trigger wires close together and keep them offset from center about 3". Have the trigger on top and on the back side of the trap.

The thing about coon boxes Is you want to make it as easy as you can for the coon to work the box. Look at It this way if you had to get down on your belly to get Into some small opening would you think twice about It? Same with a coon raise the front of the box up about 6" so the coon can stand In front of the box and stick It's head In . Screw a section of 2X6 to the bottom front edge of the box. Then drill a hole through the box near the back and shove your T bar stake through that and Into the ground. This will stabilize the box and give you something to tie off your BG.

There are a lot better and more productive coon sets then BG boxes but this will help you make the box a little more coon friendly.


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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6982610
09/04/20 01:58 PM
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I set trails and use #1 till the triggers breaks then I make a 4'' circle trigger out of a coat hanger


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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6982632
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I'm a #4 guy but now I'm rethinking my set up. Thanks guys I'm going to try a couple different set ups. Can't get a better year for experimenting

Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6982746
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Keep the triggers tight together and just off set them a few inches one way or the other. Were only talking about a 5" opening. I know It works on wood chucks.


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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6984191
09/06/20 03:07 PM
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No, the pan pointed toward the bait. it makes the difference between them being struck behind the ears instead of being struck at the base of the neck.

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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6987170
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Took several nights, but finally got a decent video of a coon working a 5 x 5 body grip in a box. Jaws were wired open, trigger wires straight down and to the right side on back jaw. Triggers were not hanging straight down for the coon as a possum got there first and cleaned out most of the bait....and left wires up in the air when it pulled out.



Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6987200
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If that had been a pan trigger trap, with pan angled up over the back jaw, the coon would have fired the trap with its jaw while working the bait.[Linked Image]

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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6987250
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Coon don't work a box set like a marten or a fisher. You want them caught as soon as they stick their head In the box. Because most If not all coon aren't going to crawl very far Into a 5x5 opening to get the bait.


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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6987290
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Then I would suggest using a shorter box, with a pan trigger trap, that will just accommodate the bait and trap, and the coon does not have to crawl into the box but just put its head thru the trap jaws to get to the bait.

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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6987392
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The only time I ever used pans on BG was when I was trapping rats. I made a holder so I could place the trap In the horizontal position. I cut some of that plastic corrugated stuff and slipped It on the triggers as a pan. The trap with the pan was placed about 1" under water. I had It staked with a 1x2 and the bait was placed about 8" above the trap.The rat would stand on that pan and It's next move was to the skinning shed.
It was a rat killing system


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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6987435
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Sorry about the low quality of the video. Not sure why it came out reduced as it is? Anyway, had a chance to view the video enlarged and frame by frame in slow motion. As coon's head passes through trap, can't tell if the trigger moved forward or to the side. Of course with jaws wired open, trigger was loose and not set, so not a good test. But if movement is to the side, that would take a 4 way trigger to fire. Trap shown is only 2 way. Gonna keep this going with various triggers to see if there is refusal. May not be valid, as this coon is now comfortable going in for the bait. But others will show up soon. There are still 3 or 4 hanging around.

Also noted coon put it's entire head through before it moved it's feet, but have also observed if they can reach the bait, they will always fondle it with paws first.....so would stop to reach if bait is too close to the trap. And that coon was not the old boar that comes round now and then. Curious to see how his head fits or if he even tries it.

Also appears to me best position for strike behind the ears with this 5 x 5 is if the trigger wire is on the back or inside bar. Front bar might not have his head in far enough to hit behind the ears?


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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6987513
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Try a pan trap on the front bar over the back bar. You may be very surprised with a strike behind the ears/skull. Look at the coons head movements with its head thru the trap pushing down where a pan trigger would be positioned.

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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6987706
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LOts of coon will reach In instead of sticking their head In to the opening. So placing the trap at the entrance and placing the bait closer to the trap will just get you more reach Ins. And catching a coon by the leg Is not fair to the coon.


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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6987710
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I realize you have to play the hand the DNR has dealt you as far as those tiny BG traps in Mo, and I applaud your effort to try and make them work.

I'm sure there are far more effective ways to catch raccoons but this market is the time to experiment and make the game more fun.

Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: The Beav] #6988016
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Originally Posted by The Beav
LOts of coon will reach In instead of sticking their head In to the opening. So placing the trap at the entrance and placing the bait closer to the trap will just get you more reach Ins. And catching a coon by the leg Is not fair to the coon.
OK, so what's a better set other than blind trail sets?


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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6988068
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Well a great coon set Is your best canine dirt hole. Can't tell you how many coon got there before the coyote or fox.


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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: The Beav] #6988082
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Well a great coon set Is your best canine dirt hole. Can't tell you how many coon got there before the coyote or fox.
I agree but, the forum subject is: "Body Grip triggers for coon"


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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: HayDay] #6988096
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Re: Body Grip triggers for coon [Re: bctomcat] #6988099
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Originally Posted by bctomcat
Originally Posted by The Beav
LOts of coon will reach In instead of sticking their head In to the opening. So placing the trap at the entrance and placing the bait closer to the trap will just get you more reach Ins. And catching a coon by the leg Is not fair to the coon.
OK, so what's a better set other than blind trail sets?


You asked the question.


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