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Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: lots of mink] #6990147
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It’s what they say, not how they say it.


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Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: lots of mink] #6990255
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There is no difference we are all animals were not special except we have a more robust brain

Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: Wild_WI] #6990267
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Originally Posted by Wild_WI
There is no difference we are all animals were not special except we have a more robust brain


Would ^^^ this be fact or an opinion from the robustedest brain somewhere?

Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: Wild_WI] #6990273
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Originally Posted by Wild_WI
There is no difference we are all animals were not special except we have a more robust brain


I'm not comfortable with that suggestion. If that were true there would be a pretty real argument to be made against animal use.

Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: lots of mink] #6990276
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Mark June you know full well it is opinion also to say humans were created specifically to have dominion over the earths creatures


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: lots of mink] #6990280
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The fact that we can kill and make use of any of them gives us dominion.


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Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: lots of mink] #6990281
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No matter what you believe , there is no doubt that in the natural world there are predators and prey. We humans have had a role as predator so long as there have been humans. That is a well documented fact.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: lots of mink] #6990282
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one difference is our ability to consciously ignore our compulsions . Art is another

Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: lots of mink] #6990322
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Mark / crit that's just my opinion not expecting anyone else to jump on the band wagon. I feel no difference which makes me personally feel more connected and conscious of how I hunt, trap, fish. Everything lives and dies I try to be a responsible participant in both.

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Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: lots of mink] #6990331
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This is ridiculous, if you don't think you are better than any animal I question if you have both oars in the water.

Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: Rat Masterson] #6990334
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
This is ridiculous, if you don't think you are better than any animal I question if you have both oars in the water.


Like. lol


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Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: danny clifton] #6990342
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
No matter what you believe , there is no doubt that in the natural world there are predators and prey. We humans have had a role as predator so long as there have been humans. That is a well documented fact.


I don't think there is any argument against that statement. The problem would come in when like with reincarnated and you are killing somebody's dearly departed grandma that came back as bambi.

Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: lots of mink] #6990344
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I've got 3 oars and they are all going in different directions lol. I guess everyone is entitled to their own opnion, unless its different then its bad.

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Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: lots of mink] #6990360
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Being dominant predators granting dominion by default is not an opinion.


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Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #6990391
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
It's all about the soul, or the lack of.


If I though animals had souls, I wouldn't be killing them.

Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: lots of mink] #6990411
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Im not going to get in the debate wheather instinct was given by god (the compulsions we deem as good ) the devil (the compulsions we deem as bad ) or evolved they are instinct . no matter how every living thing got them .
The point that i would like to express is that every bad charicteristic that is labeled as a fault of man is also present in the animal kingdom in one form or another . There are alot of folks that think animals are more noble than man but in truth they have every weakness or vice that we do

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Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: danny clifton] #6990425
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Mark June you know full well it is opinion also to say humans were created specifically to have dominion over the earths creatures


I would rephrase to insert the word faith rather than opinion, based on the definitions of English words, but you'd probably argue that point, and I'd be fine with that. The humanist considers their opinion on creation as their faith (see OP).

Blessings danny as always,
Mark

Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: Bigfoot] #6990431
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Originally Posted by Bigfoot
Im not going to get in the debate wheather instinct was given by god (the compulsions we deem as good ) the devil (the compulsions we deem as bad ) or evolved they are instinct . no matter how every living thing got them .
The point that i would like to express is that every bad charicteristic that is labeled as a fault of man is also present in the animal kingdom in one form or another . There are alot of folks that think animals are more noble than man but in truth they have every weakness or vice that we do


Nada. We have a frontal cortex and that's where meta-analysis (as seen often on this forum) originates. Or so say most brainiacs in the biz. Other animals can't think their way through life like we can, although there may be a on-off switch on some operators of this heavy machinery. sick

Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: lots of mink] #6990472
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your arguing semantics if you dont think the good lord gave us instincts Mark

Re: Animals compared to humans [Re: lots of mink] #6990501
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nowhere near all human behavior is thought driven . Much of it is

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