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Reaoning power of animals #6990775
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My pup leaves the paper by the door every morning. Nothing else only the paper. Then one morning there layed the paper and a lb. Bag of coffee. At first I thought strange why did she do that. Later it dawned on me she new I drank coffee w/ the paper and she found this coffee that must have flew out of the back of a.pickup.she thought I would need it as well. My thought is that is reasoning. Whay about you all.

Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: nate] #6990917
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Ours brings in packages from the UPS guy. He probably heard us talking and ordering something on line and thought when that gets here Iíll bring that in or

Heís watched that brown truck pull up and leave stuff my daughter let him bring in since he was a pup.



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Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: nate] #6990921
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My cat leaves me headless mice outside my door.

He must know I don't like to eat brains


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Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: nate] #6990923
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reasoning; noun: the action of thinking about something in a logical, sensible way.

Logical: adjective: (relates to the object of a sentence); of or according to the rules of logic or formal argument.

Formal: adjective: done in accordance with rules of convention or etiquette; suitable for or constituting an official or important situation or occasion.

Constituting: verb: be (a part) of a whole.

Well, I researched reasoning to get a clear picture of whether animals are or are not able to do it.
Near as I can tell...
I guess if your animal can: place the verb (constituting) with the two adjectives (formal & logical) assigned to the noun (reasoning).
They can reason.
If not.
Nope.
They're something else.

Oh, and I just ran all this past Grace, my really, really really smart Brittany, and she kind of did that tilt her head to one side deal when I got finished, so I'm not sure what she's saying to me right now. I don't know Brittanese like some people seem to. I learned a bunch of Greek last year, but Grace's bloodline is from France and I can't understand that either.
smile

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Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: nate] #6990935
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Itís reasonable to think a reasoning animal could reason enough to avoid a reasonable set within reason of a reasoning trapper trying to catch said reasoning critter. smile

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Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6990939
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Itís reasonable to think a reasoning animal could reason enough to avoid a reasonable set within reason of a reasoning trapper trying to catch said reasoning critter. smile


Especially if the trapper uses the wrong lure grin


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Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: nate] #6990950
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Uncleís dog was always wandering off. He put in underground dog fence. In no time at all, dog was once again off to the neighbors. Frustrated beyond belief, he stayed up one night to see what was up. The dog would go close enough to the the fence to make the collar beep...and lay down. Once the batteries ran down the beeping stopped and up went Fido on his merry way. Same dog would eat cigarette butts. Only ones that were still lit. He would paw the cherry out and then eat it and ignore any that were stubbed out.

Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: nate] #6990989
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Did your uncle ask him if thatís what he was doing Or did he just assume thatís what he was doing.

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Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6991004
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Ours brings in packages from the UPS guy. He probably heard us talking and ordering something on line and thought when that gets here Iíll bring that in or

Heís watched that brown truck pull up and leave stuff my daughter let him bring in since he was a pup.


Lol! Maybe he ordered something, and wants you to open the package for him.


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Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: nate] #6991007
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lol



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Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6991021
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Mark did you say that animals can reason but we can't understand there reasoning? It's been a looooong time since I studied what ever it is you just said. My pup made more since to me than what you wrote. Not questioning your intelligence only mine. If you said that to me I would have probably cocked my head as well. Especially early in the mornin. My pup ancestry is AMERICA think that'sthe diffrence?

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Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: nate] #6991024
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My opinion is that they can be very efficient on picking up habits, but they don't understand WHY this habit exists...that would be my definition of reasoning.


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Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: nate] #6991026
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One of our dogs is so "smart" she thinks I'm a different person everytime I smell different. Likes me one minute and hates me when I come back in the door the next. I really would like to know what goes on in her brain. Maybe she's just scizophrentic?


Right now Iím having amnesia and dťjŗ vu at the same time. I think Iíve forgotten this before.
Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: PAskinner] #6991028
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
One of our dogs is so "smart" she thinks I'm a different person everytime I smell different. Likes me one minute and hates me when I come back in the door the next. I really would like to know what goes on in her brain. Maybe she's just scizophrentic?


Or maybe some days you just stink. lol



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Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6991049
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Question #1 Who on gods green earth rides around with a pound coffee in the back of their pick-up? Question #2 how fast does this one in a million person have to drive to have that pound of coffee "fly" out of the back of the truck? whistle

Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: nate] #6991057
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Lots of campers come trough here maybe left it on there bumper fender ect.? When I said pound bag it was partial bag. If that helps.

Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: amspoker] #6991068
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Originally Posted by amspoker
My cat leaves me headless mice outside my door.

He must know I don't like to eat brains

Hahaha.... Yes!!!


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Originally Posted by PAskinner
One of our dogs is so "smart" she thinks I'm a different person everytime I smell different. Likes me one minute and hates me when I come back in the door the next. I really would like to know what goes on in her brain. Maybe she's just scizophrentic?

There are Those!


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Re: Reaoning power of animals [Re: nate] #6991073
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I dunno, someone taught finster to type.

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Originally Posted by Diggerman
I dunno, someone taught finster to type.

Haha!!! grin


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