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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991178
09/15/20 11:17 AM
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No, not stoned,
I just look around and see rioting, record unemployment, a virus that is hitting our country harder than about any other, more violence than i have ever scene in my 50+ years.
On a local level record farm bankruptcies, all the sand mines bankrupt, etc.
And all i hear on here and from the president is "i take no responsibility".?
Not to mention the fur industry is gone to a point were it may never return, about all the fur farms are also bankrupt or shut down.
Sure my stocks are doing well, but if that is what making American great means i'm skeptical. I voted republican 100% of the time in my 32 years of voting till the last election, i don't know if i can afford all this greatness?

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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991183
09/15/20 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Firemandivi
How in the world did the USA get to this point and how do we move forward from here? How do we heal this great country when so many people want to destroy it?

Protesters demand cops let themselves be stabbed or shot



Easy question! The internet and social media. Social media has gives certain groups a voice, a voice that the liberal media preys on. Without it many of these groups would have nothing.

Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991186
09/15/20 11:25 AM
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A little something for your world.



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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991191
09/15/20 11:27 AM
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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: keystone] #6991192
09/15/20 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by keystone
Originally Posted by Firemandivi
How in the world did the USA get to this point and how do we move forward from here? How do we heal this great country when so many people want to destroy it?

Protesters demand cops let themselves be stabbed or shot



Easy question! The internet and social media. Social media has gives certain groups a voice, a voice that the liberal media preys on. Without it many of these groups would have nothing.


Social media is really enemy #1 and the main source of these anti-American groups power.


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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: rudydog] #6991201
09/15/20 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by rudydog
No, not stoned,
I just look around and see rioting, record unemployment, a virus that is hitting our country harder than about any other, more violence than i have ever scene in my 50+ years.
On a local level record farm bankruptcies, all the sand mines bankrupt, etc.
And all i hear on here and from the president is "i take no responsibility".?
Not to mention the fur industry is gone to a point were it may never return, about all the fur farms are also bankrupt or shut down.
Sure my stocks are doing well, but if that is what making American great means i'm skeptical. I voted republican 100% of the time in my 32 years of voting till the last election, i don't know if i can afford all this greatness?

Prior to the pandemic, we had the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years.

Have you noticed that the violent rioting is mostly all in cities where democrats have been in charge? In MN, the mayor of Minneapolis begged the democrat governor to do something to stop the rioting, looting, burning, etc. For 4 days the governor did nothing. It took a threat from Trump who said he would send in federal troops before the governor activated the National Guard.


The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991204
09/15/20 11:54 AM
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Rudydog are you saying this wouldn't have happened if Hillary, maybe who you voted for, was elected? This pimple has been ready to pop way before Trump came into politics. Biden been in this game for decades stirring this pot of unrest to a boil. Democratic controll is what has made these peoples actions what they are. Allowed to run unopposed in the streets demanding cops just go away. Anarchy rules the city streets. Trump has offered help many times but always told to go suck eggs by Democratic mayor's and governors.


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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991207
09/15/20 12:02 PM
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CBC archives-Just watch me-1970

This is a clip from the FLQ crisis in Quebec.
I thought the PM statements at the time are uncannilly pertinent to what is going on now.

I dont know how to do the link if someone could link it it may be interesting to a lot of us in how he put the hammer down on the anarchists and his view of the situation.

Last edited by Boco; 09/15/20 12:03 PM.

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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: rudydog] #6991227
09/15/20 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rudydog
No, not stoned,
I just look around and see rioting, record unemployment, a virus that is hitting our country harder than about any other, more violence than i have ever scene in my 50+ years.
On a local level record farm bankruptcies, all the sand mines bankrupt, etc.
And all i hear on here and from the president is "i take no responsibility".?
Not to mention the fur industry is gone to a point were it may never return, about all the fur farms are also bankrupt or shut down.
Sure my stocks are doing well, but if that is what making American great means i'm skeptical. I voted republican 100% of the time in my 32 years of voting till the last election, i don't know if i can afford all this greatness?

Try looking at who the leadership is in the ciities that are being destroyed. It's time people see the results of who they voted in as mayor, council, DA, Governor. There is a chain of command.


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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: rudydog] #6991233
09/15/20 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rudydog
OK
The thing about that i find hard to under stand is throughout history the guy in charge is usually the one who accepts the responsibility for what is happening under his watch.
I have never seen were the one at the top feels no responsibility and blames the president before him, or the one running against him for all the bad? Just never seen anything like that.
How can the one running against him have anything to do with any of this?
I didn't vote for the president before this one we have now, But after almost 4 years wouldn't you'd think it's time to grow up and take some responsibility?

.....drain the swamp then you will see who is at the bottom of all this

Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991247
09/15/20 01:00 PM
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Every one comes on here blaming one party or the other for what is happening to this country but how do these people get in office? The problem is us ,we vote them in they don't just pop up. It's churches , yes the internet, it's our morals as a whole.Anything goes, and when someone does try to change it little special interest groups from one side or the other jump up and start crying. The answer ,I really don't know anymore you used to have a majority of decent people who stayed the course but there seem to be to few any more to matter. It will come full circle but we won't like the out come.

Re: How did we get to this point [Re: rex123] #6991258
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Originally Posted by rex123
Every one comes on here blaming one party or the other for what is happening to this country but how do these people get in office? The problem is us ,we vote them in they don't just pop up. It's churches , yes the internet, it's our morals as a whole.Anything goes, and when someone does try to change it little special interest groups from one side or the other jump up and start crying. The answer ,I really don't know anymore you used to have a majority of decent people who stayed the course but there seem to be to few any more to matter. It will come full circle but we won't like the out come.


They’re still out there, it’s just been good for so long they got complacent.


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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991260
09/15/20 01:23 PM
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Scary times ahead.


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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991268
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HobbieTrapper, I hope your right.

Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991331
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Saw on TV the other day a bunch of BLM protesters holding signs. One of the signs said, "White Lives Don't Matter".


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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991362
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Regardless of who is to blame for getting us to this point today, it will be our fault, if we don’t address it and restore our nation to the principles upon which it was founded.

You might have to do more than vote and hope.


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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991515
09/15/20 07:54 PM
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I vote in every election but the choice is always the lesser of two evils, it is rarely if ever the best choice. And nothing ever changes. I would love to see term limits on all elected officials but I doubt it will happen in my life, heck I would also love to see unbiased news but its never going to happen. So honestly what do you think the average person, people like us can do to change the way this country is going?


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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991521
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Originally Posted by Firemandivi
I vote in every election but the choice is always the lesser of two evils, it is rarely if ever the best choice. And nothing ever changes. I would love to see term limits on all elected officials but I doubt it will happen in my life, heck I would also love to see unbiased news but its never going to happen. So honestly what do you think the average person, people like us can do to change the way this country is going?

Convention of States or civil war at this point.

Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Trapper7] #6991525
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Saw on TV the other day a bunch of BLM protesters holding signs. One of the signs said, "White Lives Don't Matter".

They got the momentum. I blame mainstream media.


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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991526
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They're all well and fine in the big cities.......


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