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How did we get to this point #6991008
09/15/20 08:28 AM
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How in the world did the USA get to this point and how do we move forward from here? How do we heal this great country when so many people want to destroy it?

Protesters demand cops let themselves be stabbed or shot


I don't make the same mistake twice. I make it like five or six times, you know, just to be sure.
Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991009
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Got to this point by allowing pure communists to run and teach at the vast majority of the universities in the US. Healing wont be easy. Some think a civil war is the only way out and they might right. A good start would be to start voting some of the crazy left wing nuts running some of theses cities and states out of office.


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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991013
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43 officers killed in the line of duty since Floyds death. 9 afros killed last year by LEO, countless killed by their own race every day! WHOSE lives matter? At this point, military intervention is the only solution that I see.


"I'm a man.. I'm 40!"-Mike Gundy
Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991019
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Wyatt Earp, Elliot Ness, law-enforcement will eventually get around just like in the past no need for military.



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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991033
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We were hijacked in the 60's. People didn't realize it.

Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6991038
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Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
We were hijacked in the 60's. People didn't realize it.


True dat!



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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991039
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I told my kids what needs to happen is that we stop accepting major parties candidates

if you accept you only have the option of bad and worse you always have bad or worse.

it must start at a grass roots level

city councils , village boards , county supervisors , sheriffs , county judges then work out from there , state reps , state senators , governor state supreme court. then it can start with Congress people and Senators


people think of things as top down leadership and it seldom is


bottom up is the way most things actually work and the county , state and federal governments are trying to keep up with the change of the people once they see a movement gaining momentum

this movement would have to start with a set of principals

from these principals you should be able to answer nearly any question asked. not on what is popular but what is the principal of the party.


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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991054
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It will take a long time. Start by making people reasonable for there action. Put camera's in our class room to included collages.
Bring back the death penalty to be carried out with in 90 days. I know there might be some that my die that did not commit the crime.
Stop paying for more babies to get more money. You can only be on public assistance for so long. Give tax credits for married women that stay home and raise there kids. JMO

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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: yukon254] #6991070
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Originally Posted by yukon254
Got to this point by allowing pure communists to run and teach at the vast majority of the universities in the US. Healing wont be easy. Some think a civil war is the only way out and they might right. A good start would be to start voting some of the crazy left wing nuts running some of theses cities and states out of office.


voting in theory would work, but imo i think there are enough uneducated nutjobs that will listen to all the BS the left is spewing to vote most of them out. That would help but I think they need to revamp the entire governement. stop these career politicians from staying in to get rich off of th people. the only problem is we have given them the power to the government and im sure they will not freely give it back.

Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991072
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The whole attitude of the country/world seemed to change after 2016, not sure what happened then, but it has been a downhill slide since.
Especially if you enjoy trapping as a passion. It really hits home if you have trapped for 40+ years.
If only more of us could think on our own about what the change was?

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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: rudydog] #6991100
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Originally Posted by rudydog
The whole attitude of the country/world seemed to change after 2016, not sure what happened then, but it has been a downhill slide since.
Especially if you enjoy trapping as a passion. It really hits home if you have trapped for 40+ years.
If only more of us could think on our own about what the change was?


I think most folks have an idea what changed, or didnít, they just wonít say it.



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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6991106
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by rudydog
The whole attitude of the country/world seemed to change after 2016, not sure what happened then, but it has been a downhill slide since.
Especially if you enjoy trapping as a passion. It really hits home if you have trapped for 40+ years.
If only more of us could think on our own about what the change was?


I think most folks have an idea what changed, or didnít, they just wonít say it.


We had a president that started the anti-police movement when his speech started...."If I had a son".
Then in 2016 we shocked the liberals/establishment by electing a president that is for the people. This put them over the edge.

So yes Rudy, I wish you could think back and realize when it started!

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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: hippie] #6991122
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The thing about that i find hard to under stand is throughout history the guy in charge is usually the one who accepts the responsibility for what is happening under his watch.
I have never seen were the one at the top feels no responsibility and blames the president before him, or the one running against him for all the bad? Just never seen anything like that.
How can the one running against him have anything to do with any of this?
I didn't vote for the president before this one we have now, But after almost 4 years wouldn't you'd think it's time to grow up and take some responsibility?

Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991125
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2016 became America first. The world didn't like that nor the establishment politicians of both parties. We the people are being punished for sticking it to the man. Let's be smart and stick it to the man once again in November.


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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: rudydog] #6991128
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Originally Posted by rudydog
OK
The thing about that i find hard to under stand is throughout history the guy in charge is usually the one who accepts the responsibility for what is happening under his watch.
I have never seen were the one at the top feels no responsibility and blames the president before him, or the one running against him for all the bad? Just never seen anything like that.
How can the one running against him have anything to do with any of this?
I didn't vote for the president before this one we have now, But after almost 4 years wouldn't you'd think it's time to grow up and take some responsibility?


How do you feel Trump started or is responsible for the riots in Democrat controlled cities?

Re: How did we get to this point [Re: rudydog] #6991133
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Originally Posted by rudydog
OK
The thing about that i find hard to under stand is throughout history the guy in charge is usually the one who accepts the responsibility for what is happening under his watch.
I have never seen were the one at the top feels no responsibility and blames the president before him, or the one running against him for all the bad? Just never seen anything like that.
How can the one running against him have anything to do with any of this?
I didn't vote for the president before this one we have now, But after almost 4 years wouldn't you'd think it's time to grow up and take some responsibility?



Are you stoned?

The runner that has been there for 40 years is blaming the guy who has been there for 4.

The current occupant of the White House is honoring the states rights to deal with their own issues. Donít ask for help donít get any.



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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: rudydog] #6991135
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Originally Posted by rudydog
OK
The thing about that i find hard to under stand is throughout history the guy in charge is usually the one who accepts the responsibility for what is happening under his watch.
I have never seen were the one at the top feels no responsibility and blames the president before him, or the one running against him for all the bad? Just never seen anything like that.
How can the one running against him have anything to do with any of this?
I didn't vote for the president before this one we have now, But after almost 4 years wouldn't you'd think it's time to grow up and take some responsibility?

There has never been in time in my lifetime where a former president tries to undermine his predecessor's administration like Obama is doing to Trump. Obama tried his best to make America a Marxist country. He failed, but refuses to give up.


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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991167
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Maybe 2016 is the first time yall noticed it but I been saying we are headed for trouble for years. We have rewarded what I view is the worst behavior possible while getting squeamish about punishing anyone for wrong doing. Instead we blame everything but the perpetrator (think how often the gun is vilified).

Maybe 2016 is when all the turds of the world finally felt comfortable enough to show us what they really believe and what they would seek for our country's future. After all, it was 2016 when the media proved the facts do NOT matter so long as they can keep up the cheeto man bad crap.

Lat night, I was flipping channels in a hotel and noticed news cast after news cast making fun of our president for blaming poor forestry management for the wild fires instead of global warming. What a bunch of traitorous pukes!


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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991173
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Re: How did we get to this point [Re: Firemandivi] #6991174
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The Trump win upset what had been a steady slide into liberalism nationwide. They then turned up the heat on the liberal policies and that made those things more apparent. What we see now is a coordinated nationwide push by liberal politicians to bring about a Trump loss. They are encouraging these despicable actions and allowing the large majority of these crimes to go unpunished which brings about more of it.....

How does it end? Could go a few different ways....

Every end scenario ends badly so prepare yourself for that eventuality. A Trump win is really our only hope but if that happens the blood could really flow right after....

The only way to stop it is federal occupation of the problem cities but there are not enough forces for that without the military and military option is a can of worms. One way that might work is to replace the liberal mayors, governors and councils with people who will use existing police forces to actually enforce the rule of law with an iron fist. But that may not be legal......most of this will not end while those leaders who choose to allow this behavior to continue without squashing it remain in control locally and that unfortunately will encourage more of it and it will also spread.


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