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Re: Kill spring snaees-open water beaver [Re: slydogx] #6985051
09/07/20 08:44 PM
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That depends on the soil. Sloppy organic muck takes more depth, hard clay takes less. You know it when it’s solid.


No beaver is pumping a rebar KP when it’s driven in solid.



It all depends on your soil. Here, 6 ft KPs handle any and all situations that I need them for. That doesn’t mean it works everywhere, that just means I make it work where I need it.

Re: Kill spring snaees-open water beaver [Re: slydogx] #6992034
09/16/20 11:47 AM
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For any who were wondering, I have clarification from Ontario MNR

The snare can be set in open water, but must be fully submerged and must incorporate a snare lock

Thanks to all for following and offering advice, I think I may have some specific applications where this may work, stay tuned for late October...


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Re: Kill spring snaees-open water beaver [Re: slydogx] #6992041
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I was curious. Thanks for the update. I've never used completely submerged snares in open water but I don't see why they wouldn't work. I can think of a few sets just off the top of my head. Good luck to you.

Re: Kill spring snaees-open water beaver [Re: slydogx] #6992063
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Snarepoles set blind are just as deadly in open water as they are under ice.


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Re: Kill spring snaees-open water beaver [Re: slydogx] #6992067
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Thanks Slydogx, got your PM. By strict interpretation then there's no obligation that the snare will hold the beaver submerged just that the snare be set submerged. Hard not to be skeptical that the issue may be subject to interpretation on a regional level.

Re: Kill spring snaees-open water beaver [Re: slydogx] #6992081
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Crit, I think one could reasonably assume that the snare must be set in a way that would immediately submerge and drown the animal... similar to the foothold reg


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Re: Kill spring snaees-open water beaver [Re: slydogx] #6992086
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Just for clarity, here is the response - verbatim

"WMU 94 is located in Part 1 of the Suspended Snare Trapping Regulation Plan where the use of snares is not permitted. There is an exemption for snares set under the surface of any body of water. The snare must be set completely under the surface of the body of water and the snare must be equipped with a snare lock."


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