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Shoulds, oughts, and musts.... #6994757
09/19/20 07:19 PM
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Just got done with some of my studies. Included in the assignment was a chapter on Cognitive Behavior Therapy.

The core Corey text reads;
"The therapist has specific tasks, and the first step is to show clients how they have incorporated many irrational "shoulds," "oughts," and "musts," into their thinking.
Second, the therapist is to process and demonstrate to the client how the client is keeping their emotional disturbances active by continuing to think illogically and unrealistically.
Third, the therapist assists the client in recognition of irrational thoughts, and helps the client change their thinking and minimize their irrational ideas.


There are more steps. CBT is a major therapeutic approach for the psychological treatment of people in all manner of professional counseling settings.

Interesting.

Blessings,
Mark


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Is a boot in the a z considered a form of mental therapy ?


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but eh pandemoc happend , there were TP shortages , there are Gun and ammo shortages

can't buy a freezer !

Meat shortage !

powder , primer shortage

people burning cities.

people rioting in the streets

people being pulled out of their cars and beaten

the police are busy being harassed and having bricks and Molotov cocktails thrown at them not responding to any calls


stop me when I have an irrational emotional disturbance !

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America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Shoulds, oughts, and musts.... [Re: ] #6994806
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Going over CBT in my studies right now. Beck's cognitive triangle is the easiest way to break down thinking for a client.( For me). Great stuff to learn for anybody. Amazing how controlled we can become by faulty beliefs.

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Excuse me guys. Mr. Johnson is with a client right now. Could y'all take a number, grab a seat, pour yourselves a cup of Joe,
AND SIT DOWN!
Thanks guys.
whistle

Re: Shoulds, oughts, and musts.... [Re: AntiGov] #6994809
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Is a boot in the a z considered a form of mental therapy ?


At least some cavemen out there think the lack that is where most of this comes from.
Oh and you are welcome to call me a cave man from now on!

Mark- I know you are an optimist- is helping someone who refuses to help themselves job security?


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Re: Shoulds, oughts, and musts.... [Re: AntiGov] #6994814
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Is a boot in the a z considered a form of mental therapy ?


it worked on ME!

(thanks, Dad!)

Re: Shoulds, oughts, and musts.... [Re: ] #6994818
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Re-education camps are good to change your way of thinking also.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Shoulds, oughts, and musts.... [Re: Leftlane] #6994820
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
Originally Posted by AntiGov
Is a boot in the a z considered a form of mental therapy ?


At least some cavemen out there think the lack that is where most of this comes from.
Oh and you are welcome to call me a cave man from now on!

Mark- I know you are an optimist- is helping someone who refuses to help themselves job security?



For life LL. For life. Promise.

Re: Shoulds, oughts, and musts.... [Re: chicken1] #6994825
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Originally Posted by chicken1
Going over CBT in my studies right now. Beck's cognitive triangle is the easiest way to break down thinking for a client.( For me). Great stuff to learn for anybody. Amazing how controlled we can become by faulty beliefs.


Chicken! Brother! Good, when I have questions on all these 15 methods we're covering in Gerald Corey's Book,
I'm dialing your number. You headed into counseling as a profession? Hope so. They are sorely needed and C-19 is making matters worse.

I'm on the 6th of 15 methods in Corey's text, and after I got past Freud, it was smoother sailing. I think Adlerian is my head-nod so far. It reminded me of..... "me."

Blessings,
Mark

Re: Shoulds, oughts, and musts.... [Re: Leftlane] #6994826
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
Originally Posted by AntiGov
Is a boot in the a z considered a form of mental therapy ?


At least some cavemen out there think the lack that is where most of this comes from.
Oh and you are welcome to call me a cave man from now on!

Mark- I know you are an optimist- is helping someone who refuses to help themselves job security?




I must be a caveman then

Mind games and endless prescriptions are no match for a single boot to the a z when it comes to abnormal thinking

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CBT looks like what many old fashion good parents already did or are doing. Many of us use it in natural conversation when teaching children right from wrong.

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All right then. Tman'ers are in grave need of help.

Me first.
Line up folks. Chicken1 ain't got all day.
No, AntiGov, you go ahead of me.
You really need help. You'll see.

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I think there's an overwhelmingly majority in this country that just need a good ole fashioned whipping which they apparently missed as children. I remember when I'd smack at the table as a kid my dad would pop me on the head with a spoon. I didn't open my mouth while I chewed my food for very long. I also remember one time I'd grown strong enough to whip him but in the end he still whipped me. Less therapists and more action is my philosophy. A father figure at home wouldn't hurt either.


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Yes Mark. I work as a counselor. Still studying as much as I can for knowledge and licensures to help more people. I am trying Gestalt Therapy next. Will have to check out Adlerian. Thankyou. In all honesty with everything I have learned. Get a group of men together. Give them a Bible. Ask them to read one page. Ask them to talk about it with each other. Repeat.

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I was told by an wise old man years ago, "A pat on the back low enough and hard enough never hurt a persons character."

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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Is a boot in the a z considered a form of mental therapy ?


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Originally Posted by chicken1
Yes Mark. I work as a counselor. Still studying as much as I can for knowledge and licensures to help more people. I am trying Gestalt Therapy next. Will have to check out Adlerian. Thankyou. In all honesty with everything I have learned. Get a group of men together. Give them a Bible. Ask them to read one page. Ask them to talk about it with each other. Repeat.


May your tribe increase chicken1. To 1000 generations!
DTS has a biblical counseling program, and part of the pastorate training includes courses within the counseling program, so I'm learning with a wide swath of folks from around the world. DTS teaches an integrative Biblical philosophy approach, with full integration of the psychology science + orthodox christian values. In other words, the counseling students take at least 30 credits in biblical studies here, and this is a very fundamental evangelical seminary.

Keep the faith, study well, and blessings on helping others in such a meaningful way.
Blessings,
Mark

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A man that is suffering from events that happened over seas needs a little more

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