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Re: which fur [animal] prime's up first [Re: Trapper Dahlgren] #6995400
09/20/20 01:52 PM
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The last thing for a marten to prime is it's tail, and that stays slate black for a long time.
Female coon with no nursing prime up just like boar coons time wise

Re: which fur [animal] prime's up first [Re: Crit-R-Dun] #6995436
09/20/20 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Crit-R-Dun
Originally Posted by Boco
Marten prime up earliest.They carry no body fat(unless they have been living at a carcass pile) and depend on fur to keep warm.Mustelids have a high metabolic rate and hunt for food constantly in winter.They have evolved thick insulating pelts as a result that come in early.
Animals with no fat and high metabolic rate generally prime up earlier and develop heavy insulating pelts.
Bear is a good example at the opposite end.
When they go into hibernation,their fur is short and not much for insulating quality,but they have a very thick layer of fat under the skin.(similar with beaver)As the winter progresses their fat layer shrinks considerably and the fur grows to take over the job of insulating the animal to hold body heat.
Bears are prime here when they come out of their den for a couple weeks end of may/begin june until they start to rub and shed.
When I hunted a lot of spring bear,I could tell by looking at the pelt what condition the animal was in.A lot of the larger bears had shorter fur and still retained an inch or so of fat under the hide.Their hides remained in nice shape longer than smaller bears in spring.
Smaller bears in spring often had thick wooly underfur and no fat whatsoever left under the hide,and were shedding and rubbing right away in spring.


Interestingly though........mature boar coon and coon in general seem to prime up early or at least the hides show creamy white early compared to most and they're supposedly somewhat related to bear and carry a lot of excess fat a lot of the time.



Coon are more closely related to mustelidae than they are to ursudae
They are closer related to ursudae than they are to canidae.
I have limited experience with coon pelts.Cant comment on their priming cycle from first hand experience as there are none where I trap.

Last edited by Boco; 09/20/20 03:21 PM.

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Re: which fur [animal] prime's up first [Re: Trapper Dahlgren] #6995485
09/20/20 04:29 PM
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Concur with Marten priming earliest. Our trapping season begins 1 November. Never caught a marten then that wasn't prime. Have caught Lynx, fox, beaver that weren't. Typically, we wouldn't set for those species until December. Nobody wants to buy a spotty brown lynx kit caught early in season. Easier to trap when snow gets deeper to. Beaver seemed best Feb and March. We were very small time, but that's my experience

Re: which fur [animal] prime's up first [Re: Turtledale] #6995518
09/20/20 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Turtledale
Jackalopes prime up here as soon as they're out of velvet


I seen one of them fully primed the other day driving past Lillydale 😂😂

Re: which fur [animal] prime's up first [Re: Trapper Dahlgren] #6995548
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Re: which fur [animal] prime's up first [Re: Trapper Dahlgren] #6995588
09/20/20 06:31 PM
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Arctic Fox, I'm pretty sure they aren't sporting their summer coat this time of year way up north! grin


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Re: which fur [animal] prime's up first [Re: Trapper Dahlgren] #6995594
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