Where/when do we say "This far and no further?" Should vaccines be mandatory? If it were would you take it?

If no then what happens when you need to prove you're "safe" to go into a store? Like the idiotic mask thing now?

Flu shot is what? 30% effective? So it seems to me that flu shots have nothing to add to this conversation. Flu virus is not being controlled. Yet somehow swine flu, sars, zika, spanish flu and west nile are no longer a big deal. This stuff is no different.

Amen to that! Well put Danny!

Danny, I think we are closer than you believe. The garbage on the nightly news has a way of influencing thoughts for their news ratings. influenza vaccines are more than 30% effective. If contacting the flu virus - of that original strain it is 90%. However for other close strains it will be reducing the symptoms (lower fevers, less coughing, less headaches less bodily system stress etc.) and more important, the time you are communicable to others. You may feel "off" for a day but the interferon and anti-bodies do short work of the invader. Mandatory vaccinations? For this virus I don't think so. Many of you did not live through the Polio years of the 50's (I did) and the Small Pox years of my parents. Those weren't mandatory but people saw the results of not having them and chose the vaccine. Glad they did as I had a friend who didn't and he contracted polio..... lasting impression....Ever see a mom-to-be lose a baby or have one with heart and health/defect problems due to measles or the 3 day (German) measles? I have --- somber times. Mom's and babes to be, deserve my respect. Both sicknesses prevented FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS through the vaccines of OTHERS. I remember my small pox vaccination like the others on here and we tend to take for granted the advances that science has provided in the 1900's. The list goes on and we are spoiled to an extent. Try to enroll your kindergartner in a public or private school without a set of immunization papers (and don't try to to use the religious freedom excuse if you are registered to a major Christian religion - heard them all before). If your are a virus, bacteria, lizard, horse, coyote, shark, snake, opossum (my fav) - all living organisms - you gotta' make a living!!!!!!! Bottom line. The harmful ones can find another home than me ! So all I try to say is "flip the coin" disregarding the politics, the money, the hype, the fear etc. and consider that science doesn't have a better way of protecting those vulnerable individuals in society (yet). Health depts. have the right to remove you and/or your kids from your own home if deemed unsafe or inhabitable - its the law and if we don't like it we have the means (peaceful) to change it. I will be right behind you and Lee when you are exercising your lawful rights (NOT TO) but "flip and look" from the less healthies' side...........still my take...... the mike

Yep. 30% at best. Factor in a large part of t h e population doesn't get one. Yet somehow they have all run their course.

I don't watch the nightly news garbage. I don't watch TV at all. Haven't watched TV in years.

P.S. who is Mike?