Re: Petr
[Re: NonPCfed]
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09/22/20 03:48 PM
09/22/20 03:48 PM
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Posts: 839 McCurtain Co. Oklahoma
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Petr's entire writing is based on emotion and a spiritual belief. Scientific research isn't going to persuade him in either realm. We have to use a factual based approach to deal with those who don’t see things the way we do. We may not be able to persuade a particular individual to change his or her mind but by defending/promoting our position using facts we will be able to keep public opinion in our favor. This Petr exercise is about much more than one anti on a trapping forum.
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Re: Petr
[Re: OKforester]
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09/22/20 03:50 PM
09/22/20 03:50 PM
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Mark June
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Mark June
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So if Petr ever does come back so we can civilly discuss with him let’s try to avoid using religious or emotional opinions, both of which he has based most all of his comments towards us. We need to use scientific facts, personal experiences should be used very sparingly, to promote our conservation efforts. There are hundreds if not thousands of scientifically based studies that support our conservation methods. We need to be able to quote some of these to base the promotion of our view points on proven scientific material. We can never win an emotional or religious argument but we will win an argument based of science everyday and twice on Sundays. Why would we try to win? Perhaps his culture is one in which they exchange ideas. Sharon is correct in her starting point. Thank you Sharon!
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Re: Petr
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09/22/20 04:58 PM
09/22/20 04:58 PM
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Posts: 839 McCurtain Co. Oklahoma
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So if Petr ever does come back so we can civilly discuss with him let’s try to avoid using religious or emotional opinions, both of which he has based most all of his comments towards us. We need to use scientific facts, personal experiences should be used very sparingly, to promote our conservation efforts. There are hundreds if not thousands of scientifically based studies that support our conservation methods. We need to be able to quote some of these to base the promotion of our view points on proven scientific material. We can never win an emotional or religious argument but we will win an argument based of science everyday and twice on Sundays. Why would we try to win? Because we sure don’t want to lose.
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Re: Petr
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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09/22/20 06:19 PM
09/22/20 06:19 PM
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Ryan McLeod
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I was going for the scientific approach. Maybe we convinced him already and he’s out prebaiting some cubbies
If you take care of the land the land will take care of you
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Re: Petr
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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09/22/20 07:27 PM
09/22/20 07:27 PM
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Gary Benson
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I fed a hungry neglected dog today and chickens in a coop with no food or water. I hope that chases bad luck away! Then I ate bacon for supper.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: Petr
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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09/22/20 07:31 PM
09/22/20 07:31 PM
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Mark June
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Mark June
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Where is Petr's original post?
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Re: Petr
[Re: Providence Farm]
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09/22/20 07:43 PM
09/22/20 07:43 PM
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Mark June
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Mark June
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I dont believe he will be back. You may be correct PF. It seemed pretty clear, as I read through a few of the replies to him, that more than a couple ships were lining up in the harbor, and they had prideful intent of sinking the Russian vessel Petr. It's typical, I suppose, if your ship gets shot at (as you first enter a new harbor), to turn your ship around. Blessings, Mark
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Re: Petr
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09/22/20 07:50 PM
09/22/20 07:50 PM
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I dont believe he will be back. You may be correct PF. It seemed pretty clear, as I read through a few of the replies to him, that more than a couple ships were lining up in the harbor, and they had prideful intent of sinking the Russian vessel Petr. It's typical, I suppose, if your ship gets shot at (as you first enter a new harbor), to turn your ship around. Blessings, Mark I hope my post did not come off to harsh. I tried with the best of my ability to be civil and explain my stance and why I have that stance. Maybe I was not successful in my attempt?
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Re: Petr
[Re: Gary Benson]
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09/22/20 07:56 PM
09/22/20 07:56 PM
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Crit-R-Dun
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I fed a hungry neglected dog today and chickens in a coop with no food or water. I hope that chases bad luck away! Then I ate bacon for supper. You've got a cancelling effect happening there.
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Re: Petr
[Re: Petr]
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09/22/20 08:08 PM
09/22/20 08:08 PM
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KYtrapper2005
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Yes, I have an open mind. But that doesn't mean my conscience is open.
How about u? Do you have an open mind, if I show u the evils of trapping? How the animal must feel with its foot...or FACE...caught in a trap?
Comrade a head catch with a connibear is one of the If not the most humane ways for a furbearer to die
Trapping is what built North America, why take that away?
pro second amendment-- pro God-- pro Trump-- Pro America!
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Re: Petr
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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09/22/20 08:14 PM
09/22/20 08:14 PM
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danny clifton
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Are you, or were you, a sable trapper Petr? Wolves? Go ahead and show me. I gave you my sob story which you never even commented on. The story is true. So is this Is it ok for a coyote to be a predator? Get into a sheep pen and kill 30-40 in one night for fun? Or will the coyote suffer bad karma? Coyotes can be healthy without ever eating another animal. Do coyotes know it is murder to eat a deer fawn?
Why do you think in a world of prey species and predator species, both created by your Goddess Gaia, it is unnatural and immoral for humans to be predators?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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