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Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6997486
09/22/20 08:14 PM
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Are you, or were you, a sable trapper Petr? Wolves? Go ahead and show me. I gave you my sob story which you never even commented on. The story is true. So is this

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Is it ok for a coyote to be a predator? Get into a sheep pen and kill 30-40 in one night for fun? Or will the coyote suffer bad karma? Coyotes can be healthy without ever eating another animal. Do coyotes know it is murder to eat a deer fawn?

Why do you think in a world of prey species and predator species, both created by your Goddess Gaia, it is unnatural and immoral for humans to be predators?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6997487
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Dead before it knew what hit it. We should all be so lucky to go in such a way.

Re: Petr [Re: Petr] #6997489
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Originally Posted by Petr
Yes, I have an open mind. But that doesn't mean my conscience is open.

How about u? Do you have an open mind, if I show u the evils of trapping? How the animal must feel with its foot...or FACE...caught in a trap?

You could not show US the evils of trapping...because none exist!


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Re: Petr [Re: Petr] #6997490
09/22/20 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Petr
Yes, I have an open mind. But that doesn't mean my conscience is open.

How about u? Do you have an open mind, if I show u the evils of trapping? How the animal must feel with its foot...or FACE...caught in a trap?


How does the animal feel when it's ripped apart and eaten, while it's still alive by another animal? Wild animals don't die well.

Keith

Re: Petr [Re: Petr] #6997492
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Originally Posted by Petr
Yes, I have an open mind. But that doesn't mean my conscience is open.

How about u? Do you have an open mind, if I show u the evils of trapping? How the animal must feel with its foot...or FACE...caught in a trap?

You ever been in a bad car wreck?

Re: Petr [Re: Petr] #6997493
09/22/20 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Petr
Yes, I have an open mind. But that doesn't mean my conscience is open.

How about u? Do you have an open mind, if I show u the evils of trapping? How the animal must feel with its foot...or FACE...caught in a trap?



Greetings Petr.

You are speaking of the unlikely example of trapping.

(In which someone likely didn't follow the rules)

Trapping methods are as humane as possible.

It's far better than the natural course of nature.

Last edited by amspoker; 09/22/20 08:38 PM.

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Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6997500
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Petr. I would hope that you study the natural behavior of all animals, Especially the animals that have an open season for us to understand their way of Life. Trapping is the best way to control over population and disease, which is a long painful death.

I'm all ears Petr. I want you to tell me more of how you came to your conclusion of anti Trapping.

Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6997501
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Welcome aboard Petr!


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Re: Petr [Re: dirtydogtrapping] #6997503
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It seems to me that Petr doesnít have much to say or simply hasnít any good answers to our questions or to our side of the debate. I would bet heís never had a trap on his hand so he would know of what he speaks or maybe both thumbs in a #4 coil, got himself out and reset the trap without suffering. In fact if traps worked like people of his ilk would have you believe most of us would have no fingers. At the end of the day or at any other time really, if he wants to tell me how to live or how to feel about anything he will find himself at the end of a long and rough row to hoe. On the other hand he can believe what he wants and live how he wants as long as he minds his business and not mine. Petr, I hope we understand each other, but Iím not gonna hold my breath waiting for you to come around and I wouldnít suggest you do so while waiting on me either.

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Re: Petr [Re: Petr] #6997515
09/22/20 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Petr
Yes, I have an open mind. But that doesn't mean my conscience is open.

How about u? Do you have an open mind, if I show u the evils of trapping? How the animal must feel with its foot...or FACE...caught in a trap?


Great news.

Please realize the vast majority of licensed trappers, who are among the most regulated and controlled outdoorsman, do not like to see animals trapped inhumanely. Iím sure you can show pictures of animals trapped inhumanely, PETA is one of the best at doctoring photos and staging these scenes to make us look bad and play on the emotions of people whom do not want to see reason.

Most of us follow best management practices. Where traps and methods have gone through extensive testing to ensure the animal is held with minimal injury or damage, with cable restraints, cage style traps or foothold traps. Or the animal killed is quickly and effectively in the case of body grip style traps or snares.

We use techniques so that our traps are very selective in what animal we catch and how that animal is held.

None of us want the animal to suffer an excessive amount. We surely treat the animal better than Mother Nature does, look at how disease and starvation affect game populations that are allowed to grow outside of the carrying capacity. Or just when one animal eats another animal.


Thank you for your open mindedness.


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Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6997520
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Isn't this the same one who was just here to hack into the website from the beginning?

Re: Petr [Re: ~ADC~] #6997522
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Isn't this the same one who was just here to hack into the website from the beginning?



I believe he was always forthcoming about his intentions.

That he disapproved of trapping.

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Re: Petr [Re: ~ADC~] #6997534
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Isn't this the same one who was just here to hack into the website from the beginning?


Not to mention the "you are murderers" thing.

Re: Petr [Re: ~ADC~] #6997539
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Isn't this the same one who was just here to hack into the website from the beginning?


Not real interested in talking to an anti myself I'd rather talk to someone who's mind isn't made up yet but to each his own. But I think he was trying to make back link to drive traffic from search engines. I could be wrong but that's what I thought he said.


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Re: Petr [Re: Petr] #6997557
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Originally Posted by Petr
Yes, I have an open mind. But that doesn't mean my conscience is open.

How about u? Do you have an open mind, if I show u the evils of trapping? How the animal must feel with its foot...or FACE...caught in a trap?

Pretty sure we treat animals better than your government treats its citizens that don't agree with your government.You may want to start by righting that wrong.Just sayin.


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Re: Petr [Re: Petr] #6997558
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Originally Posted by Petr
Yes, I have an open mind. But that doesn't mean my conscience is open.

How about u? Do you have an open mind, if I show u the evils of trapping? How the animal must feel with its foot...or FACE...caught in a trap?

So basically no, that's like saying your open minded to the LGBT community but let me show you why it wrong and how it's evil.

Honestly seems your mind is and has been made up from the start. Your open minded to where it fits your agenda.
There's people here who can speak about this on multiple levels from a spiritual down to scientific but unless you are truly open minded and ready to put your emotions to the side and question what you think is right then there's truly no point .


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Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6997564
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Double tap.

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Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6997566
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Well untill he can address any of the issues we have taken the time to wright up for him with more than trapping is bad think of how the animals feel. Utilize and compose an argument supported by facts and science instead of emotion I will no longer wast any of my time.

Good luck living in your out of touch with the natural world fantasy land life.

Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6997569
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proper and legal trapping is quite humane .

many non trappers would have you believe that a trap crushes the foot , or causes major damage if that were the case my fingers would be a mess but they don't.

I have all my fingers and they all work and I have been caught by my own traps many times.

for a demo I will stick my hand in a foothold trap. about half the people in the room generally jump sure I am going to loose fingers I keep talking , press down the levers with my feet and remove my hand.

no blood , no damage

when I get to my traps most of the time the animals are laying there sleeping till I get close.

we use traps sized to get pad catches , the pad of the animals foot is the toughest part they run on gravel roads on those pads.


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Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6997575
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Animals do feel pain if you step on a dogs ail it whimpers. Never will you see a animal with a crushed leg in a LEAGAL trap. I have never NEVER had a animal with a broke leg. Never have I had a animal suffer I donít want to see one suffer thatís why I quickly cleanly dispatch my catches. The media lies. There have been illegal trappers before they are the ones you hear about. We on here are all LEAGAL trappers we go quitely about our business we donít brag about our catches on social media for the fear we will be ridiculed. Trapperman.com is a place for trappers where we can talk to each other and know we wonít be ridiculed by the rest of the world. Petr please letís have an open PEACEFUL debate share your opinion maybe we can shed some light from our side Iíd love to.

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