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GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM #6998177
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***GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM***

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Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6998195
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There are a few Western guys that are likely happy to see that there is still a potential fair market for Westerns as the last auction sure didnt seem too promising with most held over.


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Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6998200
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how bout western PA? wink









Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6998208
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Do u tag them?


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Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: pcr2] #6998210
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Originally Posted by pcr2
how bout western PA? wink

They don't want them rusty bellied house cats!!!


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Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: pcr2] #6998213
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Originally Posted by pcr2
how bout western PA? wink



I know pcr2 somehow they skipped Missouri

Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6998216
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We will still buy and have markets for all other section cats. But when you are in more commercial sections it makes more sense for us to just buy them outright as $25 selling and marketing fee isnít realistic on cheaper bobcat.

Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6998231
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I'm not a cat trapper, but this is an interesting proposition; I like it.
Adapt or die.


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Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6998243
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Originally Posted by GFW - GROENEWOLD
We will still buy and have markets for all other section cats. But when you are in more commercial sections it makes more sense for us to just buy them outright as $25 selling and marketing fee isnít realistic on cheaper bobcat.

Must they have cities tag on for u to buy them or can u put tag on for trapper?


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Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: GROUSEWIT] #6998249
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All cats must be tagged with CITES prior to us receiving them whether we market them for you or buy them.

Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6998264
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^^^^^ yup sounds interesting


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Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6998266
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Sounds like a good deal if you have quality fur.

Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: Boco] #6998271
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Originally Posted by Boco
Sounds like a good deal if you have quality fur.

The catch is that darn cities tag. FH pickup person puts them on! U can't just get them put on within a couple hundred miles (round trip) some times.


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Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6998278
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How are you assessing a value for insurance? Are you going to inform shippers of that value before their cats leave the country? Can shippers get their cats back if the value is not compatible??







Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: Monster Toms] #6998352
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Originally Posted by Monster Toms
How are you assessing a value for insurance? Are you going to inform shippers of that value before they leave the country? Can shippers get their cats back if the value is not compatible??


Good questions,I have 33 high end cats.
Have her that many at FH's also.

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so if the buyer is not paying commission, CITES, shipping or any other fees, why is the customer paying $557 for a $500 cat?

Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6998616
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So one buyer determines the price he wants to pay?The reason you send to auction is so you can get more than one buyer interested thus with multiple buyers you get a higher price.
When building a bobcat coat the buyer wants to choose from multiple skins so they get the correct colors.The reason the Western skins did not sell at Fur Harvesters was because there was no access to Canada for foreign buyers.It had nothing to do with price levels.I would expect by spring Fur Harvesters will figure a way to access these buyers.
Looking thru this presentation above the figures do not add up as presented.

Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: Slick Pan] #6998843
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Originally Posted by Slick Pan
So one buyer determines the price he wants to pay?The reason you send to auction is so you can get more than one buyer interested thus with multiple buyers you get a higher price.
When building a bobcat coat the buyer wants to choose from multiple skins so they get the correct colors.The reason the Western skins did not sell at Fur Harvesters was because there was no access to Canada for foreign buyers.It had nothing to do with price levels.I would expect by spring Fur Harvesters will figure a way to access these buyers.
Looking thru this presentation above the figures do not add up as presented.


The skins will be seen by multiple buyers from many countries. The service we are providing gives them no need to travel across the world when they have the same skins sitting right in front of them. GFW has been selling many skins of all species all summer in many countries. The business is definitely difficult so we have spent the last few years doing everything we can to continue finding new markets and also completely new marketing methods in order to ensure you the trappers have ways to market all of your skins. This method just happened to flourish during the pandemic. We are simply offering you access to a system that is working for GFW in a COVID or non-COVID world. Western bobcat are a high value skin that we can afford to trace each trappers goods through our system and give you the benefits.

If a customer wants to pay $557 for a lot of bobcats, he must be at a maximum $500 bid in the auction room. The auction charges fees and commission from both sides.

Monster Toms, to answer your insurance question.. This would be a very rare occurrence. In all the years in business we have never had to issue an insurance claim on fur, yet we still have never not insured a shipment of fur. We would give you a reasonable value based on our best estimate of your cats.

Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: Monster Toms] #6998891
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Originally Posted by Monster Toms
How are you assessing a value for insurance? Are you going to inform shippers of that value before their cats leave the country? Can shippers get their cats back if the value is not compatible??



Consigning involves a lot of trust. Apparently, your last two questions are not worthy of a response. I prefer the way Colorado runs their auction. Same with the ATA.

If I get a flat rate of $25 per sale why would care what I sell for? My incentive is to sell many at any price.

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Re: GFW WESTERN BOBCAT MARKETING PROGRAM [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6998946
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Probably be best to call the guy in the first post where it says....for more info, contact Bryce@ then a phone number.

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