Sharon, you are my hero! Very articulate and well worded reply, but I'm afraid it falls on deaf ears!

Why not pick one of the positive responses and start a dialog?

Yep all these posts fall on deaf ears I can't even count how many box turtles I have helped cross the road so they don't get smashed I know this has been posted already but trappers,hunters and fishermen have dune more for wildlife than any anti group out there.These people like Petr are the same ones think it is alright to kill baby's and not animals AND how did a dork like this get in here I have read the first post but why was he let in sorry it just boggles my mind I have not read the hole thing I am late to it. I also know there has been people sharpening there axe just waiting for some one like me to post but I really don't care anymore trapper talk has changed alot in the past couple years. So what is the count 4+ liberals and a anti now.Just voicing my point of view I like animals more then most people I do not intend to stop hunting and trapping and I hope to keep doing it in most humane way possible the post Sharon rote can't get much better I read a couple other really good ones.It is sad to see posts like this on a great sight. if this is unfit please axe it and me if need be.

At this pace Petr this debate we have set forth will take up most of trapping season and most of dont have the time. At least let us know if this is going to move forward or if this thread is dead

I propose Mark, Sharon, and one more continue this discussion with petr. We allow them to debate if he so wishes, we all bow out and hear it out.

Ladies first please.
I study with Paul, a great young man from St. Petersburg, on the Baltic Sea in Russia.
I would run anything Petr might write us by Paul first for his thoughts. I have no concept of the Russian culture.

Blessings,
Mark

You've got to cry without weeping
Talk without speaking
Scream without raising your voice

Bono

Some of you guys have a way with words. Some of you have words with patience infused.

Me, I’m, well, patient when I need to be. My words can be long and poetic or short and sweet.

But right now I have nothing.

Even the bible talks about casting pearls.

I'm always up for a good debate but this seems to be an exercise in futility. I've debated anti's before and one thing I have learned is that their is no changing their minds. I'm opting out.

... is Gaia female ? If so I could turn her into a consumptive use conservationist with nothing more than a wink ....and maybe a bottle of Boone’s farm lol

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Yep " Mother of life" in greek mythology

I say we let coonman debate him.

U want to debate things of conscience and morality? SORRY I have the high ground.

U leave animals in your traps for 24 hours! Each hour of AGONY. and don't u try to tell me a steel TRAP on your foot doesn't hurt!! Try it sometime with your own foot. FOR 24 HOURS!!!

Sure animals kill other animals. Thats part of the Great Circle of Life. But U are not part of that Circle when you use artificial traps and trucks and so forth. If u caught animals with your own claws and teeth it might be allowable morally, but only for to eat! Not for FASHION garments only the rich can afford

There’s a boat load of red flags in this one.
I have seen a lot of patience and good prudence from the owner of this site over the years however this may have been a mistake.

Osky

Sorry Petr, but I don't think you've come here to debate at all. I think you have ulterior motives but that's my opinion. I've dealt with a lot of people through the years who have said they couldn't do what I do hunting and trapping, but they understood why I did it and why it is beneficial not just for our uses but also for the animals benefit. When game populations get to high to sustain, starvation and disease takes over and no one wins. But I think you already know that and have your mind made up.
It seems to me you are more against trappers than trapping. Jmo

Let’s let leftlane and Boco go full boar on this guy!

You say you cant debate all of us yet you don't say who you want to have this conversation with. Pick a competitor and go all out. I dont want you to give in or give up I want the show i was promised. Come on already Petr get your good karma points and show us the light. You seem childish and foolish. You came in like the white knight and now you close your eyes and swing wildly at nothing. Show us Petr take us to Neverland.

Yes or no on a real debate. Yes I believe you feel you have the high ground but can you defend and hold that ground in a straight up debate? If an animal didn't feel any pain would trapping be alright in your eyes? My guess is your answer would be no. So let's skip the idea of pain and move on to the next point why trapping is wrong.

Petr you say we use "artificial traps and trucks". Your high ground must have you walking everywhere. I see fur laying all over roads going to waste and not being used that was run over by vehicles. You must be the king of shoe leather express. Your clothes and vegetables must be made and grown by yourself, I'm sure you wouldn't wear anything or eat anything that was made by a meat eater. That would be akin to aiding of the killing of animals. And don't get me started on deep fried foods in animal fat or the wearing of leather. You must live in a bubble to avoid everything you stand for. Does your employer follow your same mantra if not make sure you go to work and tell him off tomorrow.