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Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6998685
09/24/20 06:22 AM
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What job do you do to earn a living, Petr?


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: Petr [Re: beartooth trapr] #6998686
09/24/20 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by beartooth trapr
Originally Posted by Pike River
Quit letting the thought of this guy trigger you guys....

No triggering me, just wanting to know how in the world he got on here?
Just a simple question, smile

Read first post


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Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6998687
09/24/20 06:24 AM
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Humans dont use claws and teeth to kill because our brains and hand dexterity allow us to make tools.

Petr your philosophy is based on a lie. The lie that we humans are not part of the natural world.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6998690
09/24/20 06:32 AM
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So my dear trapper man friends, here's the deal.
Some of you may not realize there are other tribes and other tongues in our world.
Some may not really care.

We are a tribe (America) steeped in competition and my way or the highway, individualism and win at all cost.
If I had to ask my trapping pals, what do you love about America, we may get 100 answers from 100 people, and you'd all be right.
This is America and we are free to choose, true?

Most of the world is not like us. Much of the world is not near so blessed. Some of the people live in downright h_ll on earth.

Sharon's post was a fine example of humility in written form. It flows easier from a women's pen then from a man's pen in many cases, so we'd invite more humble, yet convicted posts to Petr just like it, correct?

It's a tough stance, to be convicted about something, yet remain humble in it. Especially for the male gender.
This forum isn't a winner take all. It's not win so my pride may boast, and my name will become great among the nations.
Heck, it's just a trapping forum, created in honor of one of the neatest men I've ever known.
Charlie was a humble, convicted do'er of "things," one of which happened to be trapping.
I set up next to him at conventions as often as I could years ago, because his demeanor amide all sorts of people was formative in my life.
Who are you being formative to these days, I would ask all of us prideful dudes?
I promise no one who listened and mentored from the Charles Dobbins types of this world is ranting and raving on the streets these days.
Quite the opposite.

Take a kid trapping. Or fishing. Or picking mushrooms. Our Lord provides all of us in America with plenty.
But please, if you do take a youngster, can we quite trying to make everybody a winner in all things. We've got enough of that in all the groups with acronyms for names.
Disciple them on how to get the job done right, respecting other trappers who love what they love.

Food for thought on a Thursday.
Blessings,
Mark


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Re: Petr [Re: danny clifton] #6998696
09/24/20 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Humans dont use claws and teeth to kill because our brains and hand dexterity allow us to make tools.

Petr your philosophy is based on a lie. The lie that we humans are not part of the natural world.


danny,
Why is someone who doesn't think as you think a lier?
Seems, you're sinking your boots into the sand pretty firm on statements like this.

What human can know all there is to know?
grin


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Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6998702
09/24/20 06:49 AM
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Mark I think a lot of our issues stim from our dealings and constant attacks from those in our country that tend to have the same or similar views as our new friend. Always on the defensive .

Add to the singular thought process of human kill animal = bad = why bad things happen to you and not a single thing not biased on emotion and his personal moral code. And not a single attempt to understand or present any type of open mind. He just wants to try to win just like many of our guys in a situation that there is nothing to win.

Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6998711
09/24/20 07:00 AM
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PM,
I would agree. Good points. We are attacked often. By most.
I'd offer, just as we kinda find the Petr's of the world hard to fathom, the Petr's of the world (they're not all in Russia) find us equally hard to fathom.

So how is the ball moved downfield in a football game? The fans, on the sidelines, and the players from the benches, and they players on the field can all yell for victory.
Move that ball!
Protect that endzone!

Why is it, there are coaches who are better than the other coaches - over a long, prestigious career - who whip the other coaches at "moving the team and the ball down field?"
And they are not yelling when they do it.
They are the opposite of the yellers.
If we're Americans, and we like to win, maybe quit yelling so much. wink

Blessings,
Mark


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Re: Petr [Re: JPW99] #6998731
09/24/20 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JPW99
Yep all these posts fall on deaf ears I can't even count how many box turtles I have helped cross the road so they don't get smashed I know this has been posted already but trappers,hunters and fishermen have dune more for wildlife than any anti group out there.These people like Petr are the same ones think it is alright to kill baby's and not animals AND how did a dork like this get in here I have read the first post but why was he let in sorry it just boggles my mind I have not read the hole thing I am late to it. I also know there has been people sharpening there axe just waiting for some one like me to post but I really don't care anymore trapper talk has changed alot in the past couple years. So what is the count 4+ liberals and a anti now.Just voicing my point of view I like animals more then most people I do not intend to stop hunting and trapping and I hope to keep doing it in most humane way possible the post Sharon rote can't get much better I read a couple other really good ones.It is sad to see posts like this on a great sight. if this is unfit please axe it and me if need be.

I to read the 1st post , and still hoping it's just a bad dream


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Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6998736
09/24/20 07:43 AM
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This murderer will just keep my yap shut for the rest of this.


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6998745
09/24/20 08:00 AM
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There are animal rights folks who are highly educated and very intelligent who can articulate their beliefs exceptionally well and present a very good position in an interesting and respectful manner. That's what I was hoping for when Mr. Paul chose to open the door to some respectful dialogue. Unless there's a significant language barrier, which does not seem to be the case, Petr is not that opportunity.

Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6998749
09/24/20 08:06 AM
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Mark June , why are you putting words in my mouth?

Just because that woman in the video you posted claimed the covid vaccine would change peoples DNA so they could telepathically link up with the internet, doesn't mean I think you were lying. Just that I think you allowed yourself to be misled.

Last edited by danny clifton; 09/24/20 08:10 AM.

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Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6998758
09/24/20 08:18 AM
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If you want to befriend Petr that's your choice. I have no ill will against him but just want, as your first post stated, a debate on the logic of his side against the logic of my side. No yelling or hard feelings. He may win or I my prevail but we will both learn. He chose to come to this forum to tell us we are wrong and I respect that if he is willing to defend and debate that position logically. And i don't need to understand his culture to present the logic of our trapping tradition. I see he didn't respond to any of my posts. Its not about changing his mind its about who can present the most logical case for their position.

Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6998759
09/24/20 08:19 AM
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Not me danny. Petr. You called his belief a lie.
Heck, call me stupid. I don't care. You're a trapper. We're pals.

I was just typing that the words you used... that if I was the one at the other end reading it, I might think you called me a lier.


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Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6998768
09/24/20 08:24 AM
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Well this hole deal reminds me of a lesbian showing up at a party and 30 guy line up to try their hand at turning her straight lol.

Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6998775
09/24/20 08:31 AM
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The thing is the else people are not pro animal. They are anti-humanists. They'll decry everything we do that's not living in a cave and eating whatever you can forage. Of course the problem anti-humanists have is they ignore the ultimate logical end of that belief that if humans are the problem, then you eliminate the problem. They may go as far as trying to eliminate the animal users but when it's time to go to Jonestown, they'll all be standing around staring at everyone to make sure they're drinking the Kool aid before they drink it.

Re: Petr [Re: danny clifton] #6998778
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Humans dont use claws and teeth to kill because our brains and hand dexterity allow us to make tools.

Petr your philosophy is based on a lie. The lie that we humans are not part of the natural world.


Best post on the whole thread.

Re: Petr [Re: Matt28] #6998780
09/24/20 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt28
Well this hole deal reminds me of a lesbian showing up at a party and 30 guy line up to try their hand at turning her straight lol.


When a better strategy would be to invite more lesbians.

Re: Petr [Re: Matt28] #6998792
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Originally Posted by Matt28
Well this hole deal reminds me of a lesbian showing up at a party and 30 guy line up to try their hand at turning her straight lol.



That sounds really messy.

Re: Petr [Re: Matt28] #6998808
09/24/20 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt28
Well this hole deal reminds me of a lesbian showing up at a party and 30 guy line up to try their hand at turning her straight lol.

But did Savell show up and wink at her? That's the question.


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Re: Petr [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6998820
09/24/20 09:15 AM
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I'm thinking You are a type of farmer Petr. You find a cause and lead others to become interested in your cause and bring their purses with them. We see it all the time even in the gun lobby. You become the farmer when you start milking those followers of your cause.
Maybe you could make money by writing a book telling people how to rid themselves of the vermin that invades their homes, particularly this time of year when mice and rats invade their homes looking to winter over there. I'm curious just how you handle a rat problem or do you just let the rats eat your babies ears off and just say that is the life cycle. Hopefully you don't just humanely catch the vermin and relocate them down the road where they can eat you neighbors babies ears off.
How many times have we seen lovey dovey people preach live and let live. The poor coyote has to eat too. Amazing how fast their attitude changes when a coyote goes over the fence with fluffy in his mouth!

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