Re: Cruelty For A Cause
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Messed up people out there.
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Re: Cruelty For A Cause
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Think PETA will rally for his conviction, or not because he's a leftist?
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Re: Cruelty For A Cause
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I doubt he was aware he was being cruel
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Re: Cruelty For A Cause
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I doubt he was aware he was being cruel That's the impression I have from the interviews afterwards.
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Re: Cruelty For A Cause
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I doubt he was aware he was being cruel I agree, because the guy is simply too stupid to know any better.
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Re: Cruelty For A Cause
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I doubt he was aware he was being cruel You may be right with that line of thought. That kinda of coincides with the idea that one can get the public to give sympathy to a cause by burning down homes and businesses. Or the same logic that if a guy gets caught in a illegal act of say a broken tail light and he knows he has a list of more serious warrants then he is not going to comply with any police officer and resist and then if he gets hurt its the cop that is wrong. In this case peta may be able to get a bigger outcry than all of the outcry over all the riots, but rest assured they will put a spin on it that will further tighten the noose on the average horse owner any animal owner as far as that goes.
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Re: Cruelty For A Cause
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Ida traded for it... for Dog food Yeah but the horse has a name. That is one thing I see in the bible that even the dog in the Book of Tobit doesn't have a name.
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Re: Cruelty For A Cause
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Why would not having shoes on a horse mess them up .just curious I don't know anything about horses Yeah I'm curious too, I guess it being in a paved hard surface had something to do with it
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Re: Cruelty For A Cause
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Why would not having shoes on a horse mess them up .just curious I don't know anything about horses Run 7 miles on tar in bare feet with a load on your back. Feet are not highly enough considered when breeding horses, then most horses stand around in a pasture most of their life not working and getting fat, their joints, feet, body all need to be conditioned before hard work. Horses originate from open grasslands with few hard surfaces, they can handle hard surfaces with proper conditioning and shoes.
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Re: Cruelty For A Cause
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I doubt he was aware he was being cruel I agree, because the guy is simply too stupid to know any better. It appears to have been his horse and the motorcyclists were part of his Burn Loot Murder crew. https://kwwl.com/2020/09/22/horsema...9zoaXgjSX0Tj1ABO1_vpBHcE9Y9_rBJVwEOu1FCw"The horse, in critical condition, continues to collapse during treatment, and is never expected to stabilize, Deboni said."
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Re: Cruelty For A Cause
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Why would not having shoes on a horse mess them up .just curious I don't know anything about horses A horse's hoof is basically the same type material as fingernails and is a shell over soft inner tissue backed by muscle and bone supporting the full weight of the animal. Imagine running on just your fingernails over a hard surface. They will crack and abrade into the quick crippling the animal. Should infection set in or permanent scarring occur the animal may be crippled for life. Further a horses physiology is predicated on being upright and mobile. Long periods of immobility will cause systemic complications and death. Iron shoes provide a firm rim that can take the abrasion and a flat surface to spread impact however they do nothing to deter shock further up the leg so running a horse on hard surfaces can harm the bones and ligaments of the lower leg even if shod.
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Re: Cruelty For A Cause
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Why would not having shoes on a horse mess them up .just curious I don't know anything about horses A horse's hoof is basically the same type material as fingernails and is a shell over soft inner tissue backed by muscle and bone supporting the full weight of the animal. Imagine running on just your fingernails over a hard surface. They will crack and abrade into the quick crippling the animal. Should infection set in or permanent scarring occur the animal may be crippled for life. Further a horses physiology is predicated on being upright and mobile. Long periods of immobility will cause systemic complications and death. Iron shoes provide a firm rim that can take the abrasion and a flat surface to spread impact however they do nothing to deter shock further up the leg so running a horse on hard surfaces can harm the bones and ligaments of the lower leg. Will add that there is a bone in the hoof structure known as a coffin bone that is protected by the hoof. If the coffin bone sinks/drops it causes laminitis. This can be caused from working a horse on a hard surface. Severe laminitis by itself is a reason to euthanize a horse. "Laminitis can be caused by many factors, including overeating (obesity), working on a hard surface (commonly referred to as ROAD FOUNDER), running high fevers, exposure to black walnut shavings, and stress."
Last edited by wildflights; 09/26/20 11:08 AM.
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