Re: Tax returns
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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I can't respond to all the posts here, so I'll reply to some of the arguments.
1. I hate the Democrats too much to care what Trump does. The libs hate him, so that's enough for me.
I can't help you, man. You hate too much. It must really eat up your soul, to hate that much, that you'd toss all logic, impartial judgment, and morality out the window in favor of your single emotion.
2. If he's a tax cheat how come the IRS hasn't put him in jail?
So who called him a tax cheat? That article doesn't accuse him of being a tax cheat. It's news that the president has only paid $750 in taxes! In what deluded Trumpian universe does that look good for him? Boy, look how smart he is, to play the system that well, you say. Good luck with that argument among undecideds.
3. It's not a moral issue because the money all belonged to him anyway. Taxes are immoral!
Wrong. Unless you renounce all rights to use our public transportation system, our retirement system, our national defense, and numerous other things paid for by our taxes. Or is it that we should only spend money on the stuff you like?
4. If Trump was legal, that's good enough for me.
So what about morality and civic responsibility? The way I was raised, those things count too. And here my biggest issue is, why has he refused to release his returns? And second, which is only partly Trump's fault, why hasn't our tax system been fixed so that a guy who can afford a limo and private jet pays more than $750 in taxes?
Why did Trump fight so ferociously to keep his tax returns secret--despite promises to the contrary--if he isn't ashamed or embarrassed about what's in them?
Trump can clear up this controversy any time he wants to, just by releasing his returns--like every other presidential candidate in modern history. Why won't he?
Even blind worshippers should ask themselves why, now and then.
Jim
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Re: Tax returns
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09/29/20 03:37 AM
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danny clifton
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4. If Trump was legal, that's good enough for me.
So what about morality and civic responsibility? The way I was raised, those things count too What is immoral about not paying tax you are not legally obligated to pay? I dont send in extra and dont know anybody that does. why hasn't our tax system been fixed so that a guy who can afford a limo and private jet pays more than $750 in taxes? Because they pay for campaigns and politicians want to keep getting their money.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Tax returns
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09/29/20 04:38 AM
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Point conceded, Danny. I agree that no one is obligated to pay extra. As I said, it's the failure to release the returns that bothers me the most.
Jim
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Re: Tax returns
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09/29/20 05:43 AM
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So what about morality and civic responsibility? The way I was raised, those things count too. Jim as a lawyer, you're going to have a difficult time claiming the moral high ground. you can't tell me that you didn't fight tooth and nail for your client's LEGAL RIGHTS, versus what was morally right. did you share information with opposing Counsel that would have helped their case, if you weren't legally obligated to do so?
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Re: Tax returns
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09/29/20 06:41 AM
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One of the few requirements James has is that the candidate "has a pulse" and has a D after their name. Morality doesn't figure into it apparently.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Tax returns
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09/29/20 06:59 AM
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Joe and the Hoe! Great leadership right there! He has done nothing in 47 years but he can work magic now.
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Re: Tax returns
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Point conceded, Danny. I agree that no one is obligated to pay extra. As I said, it's the failure to release the returns that bothers me the most.
Jim I guess you'll have to decide if seeing his taxes is more important than the good he has done for the U.S.A. and other countries. Best president we've had for decades.
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Re: Tax returns
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09/29/20 07:27 AM
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I bet his tax returns will look a lot like any other business owner’s. A modest salary at best. When you own one business there is often a lot of business expense that is paid by the business. I can only imagine the business expense and travel owning several businesses.
Democrats know the mental capacity of their voters and would only have to say a catch phrase. Trump can see that snare a mile away. lol
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Re: Tax returns
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I bet his tax returns will look a lot like any other business owner’s. A modest salary at best. When you own one business there is often a lot of business expense that is paid by the business. I can only imagine the business expense and travel owning several businesses.
Democrats know the mental capacity of their voters and would only have to say a catch phrase. Trump can see that snare a mile away. lol "Democrats know the mental capacity of their voters." Excellent!
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Re: Tax returns
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09/29/20 08:14 AM
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Biden has already won all three debates. Just ask the news. If we all get out and vote Trump will win the War. Reading my CNBC news this morning and the many articles all read in the theme of "Trump has to do these things _______ to beat Joe Biden." Interesting. The challenger to the current POTUS has a first name. The POTUS usually doesn't list one in the articles. Just "Trump." Interesting. Incumbents hold a tremendous political advantage in American politics, but the articles make it seem like Trump must beat Joe Biden. Interesting. DJT has numerous scandalous innuendo articles listed. JB none. Was the race called and I missed it? Blessings, Mark
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Re: Tax returns
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09/29/20 08:18 AM
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Biden has already won all three debates. Just ask the news. If we all get out and vote Trump will win the War. Reading my CNBC news this morning and the many articles all read in the theme of "Trump has to do these things _______ to beat Joe Biden." Interesting. The challenger to the current POTUS has a first name. The POTUS usually doesn't list one in the articles. Just "Trump." Interesting. Incumbents hold a tremendous political advantage in American politics, but the articles make it seem like Trump must beat Joe Biden. Interesting. DJT has numerous scandalous innuendo articles listed. JB none. Was the race called and I missed it? Blessings, Mark It’s not called, just still pretending DJT didn’t win in 2016.
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Re: Tax returns
[Re: James]
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09/29/20 08:38 AM
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I can't respond to all the posts here, so I'll reply to some of the arguments.
1. I hate the Democrats too much to care what Trump does. The libs hate him, so that's enough for me.
I can't help you, man. You hate too much. It must really eat up your soul, to hate that much, that you'd toss all logic, impartial judgment, and morality out the window in favor of your single emotion.
2. If he's a tax cheat how come the IRS hasn't put him in jail?
So who called him a tax cheat? That article doesn't accuse him of being a tax cheat. It's news that the president has only paid $750 in taxes! In what deluded Trumpian universe does that look good for him? Boy, look how smart he is, to play the system that well, you say. Good luck with that argument among undecideds.
3. It's not a moral issue because the money all belonged to him anyway. Taxes are immoral!
Wrong. Unless you renounce all rights to use our public transportation system, our retirement system, our national defense, and numerous other things paid for by our taxes. Or is it that we should only spend money on the stuff you like?
4. If Trump was legal, that's good enough for me.
So what about morality and civic responsibility? The way I was raised, those things count too. And here my biggest issue is, why has he refused to release his returns? And second, which is only partly Trump's fault, why hasn't our tax system been fixed so that a guy who can afford a limo and private jet pays more than $750 in taxes?
Why did Trump fight so ferociously to keep his tax returns secret--despite promises to the contrary--if he isn't ashamed or embarrassed about what's in them?
Trump can clear up this controversy any time he wants to, just by releasing his returns--like every other presidential candidate in modern history. Why won't he?
Even blind worshippers should ask themselves why, now and then.
Jim Democrats want to strip us of some of our freedoms. That's all that's needed to not vote for the left. Everything else can be worked out later.
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Re: Tax returns
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Not a great business man he even says he is the king of debt and has been bankrupt I think 3 times. No, you don't understand how to use debt. The rich do
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