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Re: Tax returns [Re: wetdog] #7003455
09/29/20 12:06 AM
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Taxes can be released while under an audit, but in this case that will be a lengthy legal battle. Maybe the IRS is holding the audit release to see if Trump wins the election. Barr and others say you can't indict a president. If he loses he won't be president.

Bryce

Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7003456
09/29/20 12:07 AM
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Which (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman), article?? lots of articles, all that I have read state the New York times got ahold of tax data of Trumps returns but no audit was mentioned.

Re: Tax returns [Re: danvee] #7003461
09/29/20 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by danvee
Which (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman), article?? lots of articles, all that I have read state the New York times got ahold of tax data of Trumps returns but no audit was mentioned.


Every single article I have read has mentioned the audit.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-tax-returns-new-york-times-report-takeaways/

https://slate.com/business/2020/09/trumps-taxes-audit-loss-irs.html

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/re...s-the-one-who-could-request-the-details/

I mean literally, every article.


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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7003466
09/29/20 12:22 AM
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So let's see if I got this, the NY Times has info that the IRS has never seen and now they can find the illegal dealings that Trump has been doing. That makes sense.

Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7003491
09/29/20 01:07 AM
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I can't respond to all the posts here, so I'll reply to some of the arguments.

1. I hate the Democrats too much to care what Trump does. The libs hate him, so that's enough for me.

I can't help you, man. You hate too much. It must really eat up your soul, to hate that much, that you'd toss all logic, impartial judgment, and morality out the window in favor of your single emotion.

2. If he's a tax cheat how come the IRS hasn't put him in jail?

So who called him a tax cheat? That article doesn't accuse him of being a tax cheat. It's news that the president has only paid $750 in taxes! In what deluded Trumpian universe does that look good for him? Boy, look how smart he is, to play the system that well, you say. Good luck with that argument among undecideds.

3. It's not a moral issue because the money all belonged to him anyway. Taxes are immoral!

Wrong. Unless you renounce all rights to use our public transportation system, our retirement system, our national defense, and numerous other things paid for by our taxes. Or is it that we should only spend money on the stuff you like?

4. If Trump was legal, that's good enough for me.

So what about morality and civic responsibility? The way I was raised, those things count too. And here my biggest issue is, why has he refused to release his returns? And second, which is only partly Trump's fault, why hasn't our tax system been fixed so that a guy who can afford a limo and private jet pays more than $750 in taxes?

Why did Trump fight so ferociously to keep his tax returns secret--despite promises to the contrary--if he isn't ashamed or embarrassed about what's in them?

Trump can clear up this controversy any time he wants to, just by releasing his returns--like every other presidential candidate in modern history. Why won't he?

Even blind worshippers should ask themselves why, now and then.

Jim


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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7003499
09/29/20 01:57 AM
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It is a tell how people act when they have something to hide.


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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7003510
09/29/20 03:37 AM
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4. If Trump was legal, that's good enough for me.

So what about morality and civic responsibility? The way I was raised, those things count too


What is immoral about not paying tax you are not legally obligated to pay? I dont send in extra and dont know anybody that does.

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why hasn't our tax system been fixed so that a guy who can afford a limo and private jet pays more than $750 in taxes?


Because they pay for campaigns and politicians want to keep getting their money.


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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7003515
09/29/20 04:38 AM
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Point conceded, Danny. I agree that no one is obligated to pay extra. As I said, it's the failure to release the returns that bothers me the most.

Jim


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Re: Tax returns [Re: James] #7003533
09/29/20 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by James
So what about morality and civic responsibility? The way I was raised, those things count too. Jim


as a lawyer, you're going to have a difficult time claiming the moral high ground.

you can't tell me that you didn't fight tooth and nail for your client's LEGAL RIGHTS, versus what was morally right.

did you share information with opposing Counsel that would have helped their case, if you weren't legally obligated to do so?





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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7003542
09/29/20 05:55 AM
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If you're worried about morality in politics you haven't had anyone to vote for in a long, long time.

Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7003578
09/29/20 06:41 AM
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One of the few requirements James has is that the candidate "has a pulse" and has a D after their name. Morality doesn't figure into it apparently.


Eh...wot?

Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7003595
09/29/20 06:59 AM
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Joe and the Hoe! Great leadership right there! He has done nothing in 47 years but he can work magic now.

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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7003607
09/29/20 07:16 AM
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Re: Tax returns [Re: James] #7003608
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Originally Posted by James
Point conceded, Danny. I agree that no one is obligated to pay extra. As I said, it's the failure to release the returns that bothers me the most.

Jim


I guess you'll have to decide if seeing his taxes is more important than the good he has done for the U.S.A. and other countries.

Best president we've had for decades.

Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7003614
09/29/20 07:27 AM
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I bet his tax returns will look a lot like any other business owner’s. A modest salary at best. When you own one business there is often a lot of business expense that is paid by the business. I can only imagine the business expense and travel owning several businesses.

Democrats know the mental capacity of their voters and would only have to say a catch phrase. Trump can see that snare a mile away. lol

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Re: Tax returns [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7003640
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
I bet his tax returns will look a lot like any other business owner’s. A modest salary at best. When you own one business there is often a lot of business expense that is paid by the business. I can only imagine the business expense and travel owning several businesses.

Democrats know the mental capacity of their voters and would only have to say a catch phrase. Trump can see that snare a mile away. lol

"Democrats know the mental capacity of their voters."
Excellent!


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Re: Tax returns [Re: yotetrapper30] #7003648
09/29/20 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Blake44
Biden has already won all three debates. Just ask the news. If we all get out and vote Trump will win the War.


Reading my CNBC news this morning and the many articles all read in the theme of "Trump has to do these things _______ to beat Joe Biden."
Interesting. The challenger to the current POTUS has a first name. The POTUS usually doesn't list one in the articles. Just "Trump."
Interesting. Incumbents hold a tremendous political advantage in American politics, but the articles make it seem like Trump must beat Joe Biden.
Interesting. DJT has numerous scandalous innuendo articles listed. JB none.

Was the race called and I missed it?

Blessings,
Mark

Re: Tax returns [Re: ] #7003651
09/29/20 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark June
Originally Posted by Blake44
Biden has already won all three debates. Just ask the news. If we all get out and vote Trump will win the War.


Reading my CNBC news this morning and the many articles all read in the theme of "Trump has to do these things _______ to beat Joe Biden."
Interesting. The challenger to the current POTUS has a first name. The POTUS usually doesn't list one in the articles. Just "Trump."
Interesting. Incumbents hold a tremendous political advantage in American politics, but the articles make it seem like Trump must beat Joe Biden.
Interesting. DJT has numerous scandalous innuendo articles listed. JB none.

Was the race called and I missed it?

Blessings,
Mark



It’s not called, just still pretending DJT didn’t win in 2016.


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Re: Tax returns [Re: James] #7003668
09/29/20 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by James
I can't respond to all the posts here, so I'll reply to some of the arguments.

1. I hate the Democrats too much to care what Trump does. The libs hate him, so that's enough for me.

I can't help you, man. You hate too much. It must really eat up your soul, to hate that much, that you'd toss all logic, impartial judgment, and morality out the window in favor of your single emotion.

2. If he's a tax cheat how come the IRS hasn't put him in jail?

So who called him a tax cheat? That article doesn't accuse him of being a tax cheat. It's news that the president has only paid $750 in taxes! In what deluded Trumpian universe does that look good for him? Boy, look how smart he is, to play the system that well, you say. Good luck with that argument among undecideds.

3. It's not a moral issue because the money all belonged to him anyway. Taxes are immoral!

Wrong. Unless you renounce all rights to use our public transportation system, our retirement system, our national defense, and numerous other things paid for by our taxes. Or is it that we should only spend money on the stuff you like?

4. If Trump was legal, that's good enough for me.

So what about morality and civic responsibility? The way I was raised, those things count too. And here my biggest issue is, why has he refused to release his returns? And second, which is only partly Trump's fault, why hasn't our tax system been fixed so that a guy who can afford a limo and private jet pays more than $750 in taxes?

Why did Trump fight so ferociously to keep his tax returns secret--despite promises to the contrary--if he isn't ashamed or embarrassed about what's in them?

Trump can clear up this controversy any time he wants to, just by releasing his returns--like every other presidential candidate in modern history. Why won't he?

Even blind worshippers should ask themselves why, now and then.

Jim


Democrats want to strip us of some of our freedoms. That's all that's needed to not vote for the left. Everything else can be worked out later.


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Re: Tax returns [Re: danvee] #7003671
09/29/20 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by danvee
Not a great business man he even says he is the king of debt and has been bankrupt I think 3 times.


No, you don't understand how to use debt. The rich do


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