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Work place after CoVID #7004207
09/29/20 08:31 PM
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The link below discusses how COVID has rapidly speeded up the work from home globally. Early in the ramp up of working from home it was done to maintain talent as workers sought greater flexibility. Now it is done as a real cost cutting measure as there will be that much less need for real estate, expensive real estate, utilities and other fixed facility costs. This also allows many workers to relocate from expensive living areas to lower cost living areas and retain their careers and higher paying jobs.
https://globalworkplaceanalytics.com/work-at-home-after-covid-19-our-forecast
Many other reports are showing that worker productivity over all has increased. All this has issues for organizations buying expensive real estate to lend out, day care and schools, especially in areas where distances are greater and populations lower and education costs higher.
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Re: Work place after CoVID [Re: bblwi] #7004214
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I think you will be surprised how many companies/offices will return to onsite. Humans are social animals. Younger workers will demand it. Romance, mentoring, and upward mobility are important to them.

Re: Work place after CoVID [Re: bblwi] #7004223
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I will tell you from first hand experience it has not been good for the education system ..... Many kids can't concentrate at home and need to be around their peers ... Sad thing watching my 6 year old grandson go through this tough time ....

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There are some downsides. I get mad at least once a week when someone I need to see or am depending on for something is "working from home". The line between working and screwing around can get pretty blurry.

Re: Work place after CoVID [Re: trapdog1] #7004318
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Yes education and other not strictly for profit organizations and businesses will work to have on site but if you read that the main reason the for profit firms are embracing off site employees is to be able to save money and make more profit. That will drive the work related employment for many service based businesses which is the fastest growing sector in a consumer economy. Especially banking, insurance, record departments, etc. Just look at retail and the number of facility closings. Just in the last 6 months I know the deliveries just to our house of two are quadruple of what they were a year ago. I always felt shipping and handling were expensive but in reality not so bad, plus many are offering free shipping.
Having spent 37 years in education I would hope that we would spend the needed funds to have on site education and social interaction as it may be the only place that occurs with how divided we are politically and socially as the private sector driven for higher profit will choose the most profitable option.

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Many companies will see work-from-home as a cost cutting opportunity and move to keep it in place or even increase its use. It will be a short sighted move because over time they will see a decrease in productivity and effectiveness as person to person communication suffers, employees fail to develop positive working relationships with others, mentoring is lost, etc. As it begins to negatively impact their bottom line they will eventually recognize it as a failed experiment and return to the workplace model. I'm thinking this will take about 5 years.

Re: Work place after CoVID [Re: bblwi] #7004446
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people need to go back to working together in same workspace. It is so much better.


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Re: Work place after CoVID [Re: bblwi] #7004452
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I hope it reduces rush hour traffic and road rage.


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Re: Work place after CoVID [Re: bblwi] #7004507
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We're already seeing companies bail from office buildings. Big tech companies are paying small fortunes getting out of lease agreements on office buildings, especially in california

Re: Work place after CoVID [Re: bblwi] #7004543
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worked the last 12 of 22 years from home , used to go visit my desk once a week then once a month now it has been 7 months.

it definitely reduces the traffic , I have driven the Belt line in Madison WI a few times at 4:45-5:15 pm during Covid , 1/2 the traffic of the old days of stop and go nearly daily during this time. no I am doing 60 and getting passed

some things will go back to in office you have those people just have to be there to feel right.

but in large part the people who process paperwork and do the more mundane tasks , take phone calls , enter orders , give quotes , all those windowless offices or cube farms , those people will in large part be able to stay remote and not have to pay after school care or spend hundreds on gas a month.

even a majority of IT people will stay remote all but a day or two a week. with virtual servers they need one guy to watch the server room and go do physically resets when needed. much of that will go to CO-LOs or already have.

when you call hospitals all over the country I can tell you about 33% of the time the person you are talking to on the phone to get to the clinic or department isn't in the hospital any more. first they were moved to offsite offices in a lower rent area of the city often old strip malls converted to office space now many of them are at home.


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If working from home is the new trend, I don't understand how new employees will get proper training.


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They wont

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Work from home---Get a gov't cheque,stay in your basement smoking dope and playing video games.

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I enjoy less traffic but I also see a lot of people "Working from Cottage" and more to come if broadband improvements are made.

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Originally Posted by Boco
Work from home---Get a gov't cheque,stay in your basement smoking dope and playing video games.


hey!

that's what Joe does!


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Some businesses are willing to risk up to a 30% loss in productivity by stay at homers due to the company savings and all other benefits associated with the plan.

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Originally Posted by Boco
Work from home---Get a gov't cheque,stay in your basement smoking dope and being on Tman all day.

fixed it for ya

one thing for sure is the travel on vehicles is reduced and their replacements wont be like they were before, wonder when the car manufacture will see the light.
Office space has sure come to the chopping block

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Originally Posted by AJE
If working from home is the new trend, I don't understand how new employees will get proper training.

For most jobs there's nothing that can be learned in person that can't be learned virtually unless the wrong person was hired.



This could have very bad long term consequences though for many industries since consumption is significantly decreased most notably transportation and real estate and the associated maintenance expenses.

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My wife works in insurance and all these big campuses that used to house insurance companies will be ghost towns if not all ready


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I think we all need to come to grips with the fact that probably a majority of our younger and entering workforce actually like working from their homes more than dealing with auto expenses, parking fees, rush hour and all the extra costs dealing with travelling to work. That and businesses readily seeing the cost savings as well. Many are state that the rush to relocate in more rural environments for safety is the main reason, but also consider if I can buy a much lower cost residence, not travel and maintain my high income job or jobs why live where the cost of living is much higher? When most school districts that have hug financial shortfalls and start doing more distance learning then the are now it will increase the pace of working differently more.

Bryce

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